It looks like I'll be doing a patio of about 600 sf with tumbled pavers. All material will be Techo-Bloc, Elena pavers and (as of right now) Creta wall blocks and caps for a 3 rise step up to the house. The patio itself is no problem, but I've never tried to incorporate a step into one. This step will be curved and the top wilbe something like 3' deep, allowing room for people to come out the door and get oriented before they step down. If I run Mini-Creat and caps I get a 6" rise.., not enough to feel comfortable underfoot. Full Creta would give me about an 8" rise,, too much for code compliance. I'm thinking about running full Creta in successive courses and changing base grade to let me come up with a 7" rise. To do that the lower course would be set down to bury the block behind the pavers, leaving a 4" reveal. Next row back would be buried to allow two courses plus a cap to make the next 7" rise, etc. In that scenario the steps would set on prepared base. If I go Mini-Creta I would stack them on the pavers, glueing them in place to keep them from shifting. Then fill the cavity with base material and set the pavers for the landing . Darn, I hope this makes sense, not a very good description. If anybody can shed any light on this arrangement it would be appreciated.