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Paver Patio Bid

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by Finestlandscape, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,602

    Why would you not tamp the pavers using my method? We always have. It's really no different than pavers set on an aggregate base.

    If you glue the perimeter pavers - then when tamp the field, you have to be careful not to disturb the glued pavers.

    And if the slab is uneven, with glue, you can't adjust for it. With bedding sand, you can.

    Edge restraint anchored however you want. Pavers set on bedding sand. It's not theory :)

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    Last edited: Mar 23, 2013
  2. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    Dvs? Lol
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  3. jbailey52

    jbailey52 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Ok sounds like were not on the same page with the install methods. You like using a larger border paver (thickness) and then using sand over the concrete with a standard 2 3/8 paver? If the concrete is in good shape, we go straight on top of the concrete with the field pavers on top of a textile fabric so there is no concrete to concrete 'clicking' (which can happen even after the poly sand is installed) And yes everyone.. poly sand used on a concrete overlay job... They have poly specifically for this application.
  4. jbailey52

    jbailey52 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Isn't that what grading/landscaping was invented for? Hiding the hardscapers's mess?!
  5. FLCthes4:11-12

    FLCthes4:11-12 LawnSite Senior Member
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    For me if it was a standard 4" slab with no wire or rebar, think i would rip it out and install a traditional base. But thats just me and I dont know all the logistics assoiciated with that job. Good luck would like to see some pics of what you decide.
  6. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    True. I was just thinking of all the raised 4 inch slabs we have in my area
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  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not sure what you mean per say. "Raised" is a broad term. No one size fits all.

    "Raised" as in how much? A few inches? Then backfill with soil and feather into the yard.

    Raised as in 18" - then still scenerios can exist.
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  8. neighborguy

    neighborguy LawnSite Member
    Messages: 186

    I agree with FLC, I would rip up the slab and do proper base. At least here in Wisconsin I would think if any water gets trapped between the slab and the pavers they will be popping up every winter. Maybe not all of them but you get what I am saying. If I were desperate for work and a prospective client told me this is what they wanted, I would definitely make sure there was clear communication of NO WARRANTY.
  9. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I don't know a picture of the edge of the slab would be helpful but what I do know is that if my name was on this job I would not be entirely comfortable with a glued edge, I see a trip and fall from a fliping loose paver on the horizon. The words glue and foot traffic dosent give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. Not a big deal to drill for tapcons or lag shields for a mechanical restraint.
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  10. wurkn with amish

    wurkn with amish LawnSite Senior Member
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    yet we step on "glued" retaining wall coping used as treads all the time........

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