How do you guys compensate your top guys? I have traditionally given my two forman a $1 to a 1.50 raise a year until this spring when I gave them a benifit package. 401 k match, vacation time, spanking new truck which is "theirs" and they take home every night. These guys have an awesome work environment, working on the top jobs around, great coworkers, a boss that labors right along side them at least a few days a week, end of the year bonuses, parties, nice equipment the list goes on and on... one of them is now coming to me for more. He is my install foreman. very skilled installer.. in 4 years he has learned a ton. is very detail oriented and FAST. He does still have A LOT to learn about running a job though. small jobs with just him and one or maybe two guys and not too much complicated layout he aces.. customers love him.. But when it comes to thinking two or three steps ahead of everything, not just 3 or more guys but work flow in general he has big improving to do.. this is a guys that has allowed me to grow my business in a BIG way, and I would not want to lose him and he would be very hard to replace... I live in vermont and we take about three months off. Another issue is that our unemployment rate we pay keeps moving up its at 7% now!!. we work a TON of overtime in the 9 months..we average 50 a week. in the winter its just a little plowing and shop maintenance etc. I am thinking of offering him a salary which would accomplish more for both he and I. How much is enough? how do you get them to realize the true value of their employment. how do you keep them long term and control payroll?? I know its a lot but want to hear what some of the guys have to say hear on any or all of it..