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i currently pick my guys up. they live about 5 min away, and i pick them up at thier homes. depending on traffic, and the direction i'm headed for the first job, this may cost me 20 minutes sometimes. no big deal. my question is, should they get paid from the minute they get in the truck, till the minute they leave the truck at days end? if i shave a quarter hr from each guy, that amounts to 2.5 hrs per week @$15 = a savings of $37.50 per week. what is fair?
 

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If they were driving themselves you wouldn't pay them to drive to your house or the first prop. And people don't get paid at companies until they're inside ready to work. I say start paying when you hit the first prop. if you're paying hourly. Or pay by the job.
 

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Howard Roark said:
If they were driving themselves you wouldn't pay them to drive to your house or the first prop. And people don't get paid at companies until they're inside ready to work. I say start paying when you hit the first prop. if you're paying hourly. Or pay by the job.
So if they are at your shop doing work first thing in the morning they dont get paid?
 

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my guys get 100% travel time in company vehicles.. From the time they clock in at the shop until the time they leave at the end of the day, they are getting paid.. With exception of deductions for lunch and breaks, etc..
 

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In CT the labor laws state that you must pay someone the moment the get in the vehicle unless the pre-arranged start location is the first jobsite and they are unable to get transportation, then they are not allowed to help load truck, touch tools, etc.

This is more applicable to construction where you would have contractors driving themselves to sites on a daily basis and stay on the site, not bounce from location to location with something like mowing.
 

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Once they touch your property, they become yours, so you need to pay them. how do you keep track of the time? Write it down? You need hard copies in the event of an accident....because you will have to cover them as well!!CYA
 

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If your picking them up, I'd say from the time you hit the 1st Job or get back to your shop if they are going to be working there for awhile...

Its kind of a nit picky thing, but they need to be flexable too... How many Jobs are gonna come pick you up...

My current office job tells me to be there at 8:00am, I get paid from 8- not from when I get in my truck (a company provided truck) and start driving....

Every job, I've applied for one of the qualifying questions was, do you have a dependable way to work and back?

They phrase it like that as in Missouri, an employeer can't ask if you have or own a vehicle...

If they did, someone could cry that they were descriminated against for not owning a vehicle...
 

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smullen said:
If your picking them up, I'd say from the time you hit the 1st Job or get back to your shop if they are going to be working there for awhile...

Its kind of a nit picky thing, but they need to be flexable too... How many Jobs are gonna come pick you up...

My current office job tells me to be there at 8:00am, I get paid from 8- not from when I get in my truck (a company provided truck) and start driving....

Every job, I've applied for one of the qualifying questions was, do you have a dependable way to work and back?

They phrase it like that as in Missouri, an employeer can't ask if you have or own a vehicle...

If they did, someone could cry that they were descriminated against for not owning a vehicle...
Im 100% sure they can. How else would they know if you can get to work and if they can depend on you?
 

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I know in Florida the law is that once they are on your vehicle they are considered captive and must be paid (hourly, exempt). However if you are giving them a ride to your shop or the actual work truck that is an interesting question you provided. If you are picking them up in the work truck then it may be likely, by law, they must be on the clock.

Employment laws are very complicated. If it could be an issue, you might have to contact an attorney (not to be a smart a$$). Just think of the possibility that one of your employees gets smart down the road and calls the state labor board...what about all the back pay you might owe...best to call the attorney.

I was one of those smart people who called the department of labor on several employers that owed me OT and would not pay...needless to say they got a nicely worded letter from the state and coughed up the dough immediately.
 

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rodfather said:
The meter starts once I see their smiling face and ends when I see the back of their head walking to their cars.
rod, how is it possible to see your employees when youre thousands of mile away? (on some island beach with a cold drink in your hand) :waving:
 

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lawnwizards said:
rod, how is it possible to see your employees when youre thousands of mile away? (on some island beach with a cold drink in your hand) :waving:
Hmmm...I'll get back to you on that LOL :D
 

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So the union says you have to pick up your employees?
It's going to take a while to make a million that way Bob.
Wait until the union says you have to take them to the store on thier breaks for mandatory snacks, and why isn't the ac working in this vehicle...
 

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So the union says you have to pick up your employees?
It's going to take a while to make a million that way Bob.
Wait until the union says you have to take them to the store on thier breaks for mandatory snacks, and why isn't the ac working in this vehicle...
wait until the union patrol finds you, and finds u r non union, when they pull out a ruler and measure your feet, do u think it's cus they wanna buy you some new dancing shoes?
 

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Im still curious to know why you have to pick up your employees bobbygedd.



If for some reason I had to go get mine you can bet we would be coming to some sort of arrangement for the gas I was wasting driving over there.
 

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When I worked for my neighbor, he told me that since he wasn't makin any money drivin to a job, I wasn't gettin paid drivin to a job. That was normally only from when we left his house to hte first job, and then to his house from the last job.
 
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