Okay, here is a perfect example of what I was talking about in my prior thread on folks getting into the green industry and bidding on commercial projects without having a clue as to their cost. This was a contract that I decided at the last minute to bid on a couple weeks ago as I really didn't care in the beginning about bidding on it. The results I SWEAR to you are the exact numbers. This is a "low bid" contract, assuming that the "low bidders" references check out okay. This bid was open today. The bid will be overseen by a State licensed engineer and inspected weelky by a licensed landscape contractor, who the winning LCO must also report each weeks work to. It is comprised of two commercial sites, 6 miles apart. The amounts of levels of service for both properties are total as follows. Total turf to be cut is 14.5 acres, 17,000 linear feet of edging of curbs and sidewalks, 220 yards of mulch supplied and installed, fertilizer at the rate of 2# of Nitrogen per 1K Sq ft, lime at the rate of 25# per 1K sq feet, overseed with approved fescue blend seed at 2# per 1K Sq ft, aeration once per year, labor only for seasonal plantings twice per year, pre-m and weed control for 29,000 sq feet of landscape beds, pruning of shrubs and smaller trees, fertilization of trees, and complete leaf clean up and removal (and there are around 110 trees on the property) weekly during Sept, Oct and Nov. This is also a year round contract. Other requirements: 1) $1,000,000.00 in Business GL Insurance, 2)$500,000.00 per vehicle of Commecial Auto Liability for each vehicle that will be on the property, 3) full Workers Comp coverage, 4) miniuim of 2 employees on site, except during leaf removal which requires a min of 3 employees, 5) 7% Bond must be also paid to the client during the 1 year contract to ensure the work is completed. 6) Must already be State Licenses Applicator. Keep in mind also that the specs for the grass seed and fert are engineer spec required and at this point only the bigger name professional suppliers such as Lesco, Anderson, etc stock the required materials. Now, MY cost on materials alone for this job NOT including equipment and other related cost, only mulch, fert, seed, lime is around $8,000.00 and I get it cheaper than a lot of other guys because of the amount I buy during the year. The bids turned out as follows going from high to low: (Mine has an * by it.) 10) $240,000.00 9) $171,900.00 8) $96,480.00 7) $92,800.00 6) 85,300.00 5) $55,112.00* 4) $50,713.00 3) $47,700.00 2) $29,999.00 and the Winner is: 1) $10,000.00 So, all you young guys posting about wanting to get into Commercial, this is what you will deal with.