PGP Ultra

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by ZX12R, Jul 3, 2011.

  1. ZX12R

    ZX12R LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 795

    Yeah,I guess I will be using the standard ones.
  2. irritation

    irritation LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,576

    You can do better for the same or less money.
  3. Buck_wheat

    Buck_wheat LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 585

    pgp adj are just fine. Doesn't seem like most of you guys have issues with FUBARED mist heads or Rotors. I wind up replacing two or three every wet check I do (BTW I install to grade) but the LCO's run em over, weed whackers trim the heads off. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me to install a gold standard when the functional lifespan of the unit is relatively short.
  4. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 50,367

    Callbacks figure into what I install. DIY folks don't have that worry.
  5. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 26,799

    And for those of us in northern climes, who realy wants to do $70 start ups for 5 yrs?
  6. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 50,367

    I don't have PGP issues, but I don't install in very sandy soil.
  7. Buck_wheat

    Buck_wheat LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 585

    I understand that. I do not warranty the product to the client regardless of the manufacturers warranty. There are too many variables down here, that's why I get hired by HOA's, management companies and homeowners to do wet checks monthly.

    I estimate that over a year, in a medium sized development say with 15 zones, 250 rotors (I think I'm low on the rotors) and 350 mist heads I will wind up swapping out about 20% of the rotors, 10 % of the mist heads and replace screens and nozzles on another 15% in a year. Not to mention repairing pipe and other peoples work. (I'll see about a new post on the hall of hackers, you'll love it, it involves a 3" sewer T & a cinder block)

    I don't get call backs usually, I GO back because so much gets messed up in a month from the LCO's, Utilities, residents, you name it. I can charge the client a fair $15.00 for a PGP ADJ installed on a wet check and not rape him. It's been a great dirty water head for me and has a lifespan about as much as a Rainbird @ 2x the price.
  8. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 50,367

    Regular homes don't merit checkups, if the system was quality work to begin with, and those that aren't can be upgraded to being reliable, or maybe just cut loose.
  9. Buck_wheat

    Buck_wheat LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 585

    Maybe not in Metro NY... It's a different beast down here.

    Systems run 365 days per year. Starting from the late 50's even up until now workmanship was based on the assumption that the owner would be out within 3 years, which was usually the case - I believe it's closer to 5 now. Unscrupulous contractors, builders, etc put all kinds of crap in the ground understanding that after they got the money it wasn't their problem.

    Since Irrigation Repair and Maintenance wasn't really considered a profession because the big boys were too busy doing installations for the building industry (until now) hacks, pikers and HO's did it them selves. No water restrictions so if it's dry? Throw a little more water down Bernie. No problem.

    Water is no longer cheap and plentiful, losers from up North come down like the Oakies from the depression looking to cut grass or do irrigation and none of them have an F-ing clue about hydrodynamics, distribution, precipitation rates, static, dynamic pressure, lift, head (well maybe a little about head) you name it.

    Home owners make up 40% of my maintenance business on their 1/2 to 5 acre lots. They don't want to necessarily upgrade because they know they are leaving soon, so I show up and cash a check. What's the problem.

    I've never encountered an irrigation system, even newly installed by pro's, (I don't do installations, I sub them out... too many problems) that didn't have some sort of an issue within a year... NONE. It's money in the bank for me. :cool2:
  10. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 23,148

    Come on up north, junior, we've got about a hundred of our installs that need normal service, period. Obviously, there are no "pros" in your area. :hammerhead:

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