I couldn't work today since my big truck was in the shop, so i figured since I can't earn it, I might as well spend it. Picked up my new 13hp Honda Force this afternoon. I put it next to my LW 10hp to compare size for some of you guys. This thing is big. It's stamped @ 160lbs (w/o fluids i think). With fluids I believe its 163lbs, which is 2 lbs more than the 10HP LW I have. This should complete my Leaf arsenal for the fall. 13hp Force, 10HP LW Shind. EB8510 (tube) Echo 750 (tube) Gravely 260Z w/ JRCO Leaf Plow.