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Picking equipment, another newb needs help

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by slb917, Sep 18, 2004.

  1. slb917

    slb917 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 12

    I am going to start mowing 8-10 lawns next spring, but am looking at buy a w/b mower now. I have two that I am considering but want some other input as well, the first is a Simplicity 34" hydro for 2000.00, the other is an Encore 36" belt for 2300.00, both have electric start, one has a B & S I/C engine the other a B & S OHV both 13hp. I dont know anybody that has owned either machine. Any input out there?
  2. CamLand

    CamLand LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,299

    I guess my first question would be,are these units new? And are you looking to buy these mowers now or next year.?
  3. slb917

    slb917 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 12

    Both units are new and I am looking to buy one this week or next.
  4. slb917

    slb917 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 12

    I thought if I went with the Simplicity, with the 300$ difference I could buy a blower or another peice of equipment...any suggestions?
  5. LCME

    LCME LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 430

    If I had a choice of belt over hydro. I would pick the hydro. I've used a 48" belt before. And, have a hydro now. The hydro is way cool to maneuver. My 2 cents. Good luck, LCME :drinkup:
  6. Mo Green

    Mo Green LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,487

    I would go with the Simplicty and save a few bucks. Then as you said, use that money for a blower. I think this is a good time to buy because most LCO's are spending their money on things for fall like aerators. That means most dealers will probably give a better deal on their leftover mower stock, so they can make room for fall stuff and next year's equipment.
  7. slb917

    slb917 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 12

    actually I have found that most dealers do not want to deal at all....even if I pay cash....the price is set and there is no dickering.
    Has anybody out there ever cut with the Simplicity or the Encore? I was hoping for some input.
    What other equipment should I consider besides a blower, that would be wise for a newb to have?
  8. LCME

    LCME LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 430

    Get an edger, trimmer and bagger. Because you're not mowing till next year. Start slow and look for new or used equipment. Good luck, cheers :drinkup:

    If you're not mowing this year. Get going on fall clean-ups. Talk to your customers or new ones. Get a b/p plower, tarps, bags, rakes, etc. Start making some money now for future mower purchase.
  9. slb917

    slb917 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 12

    How do you get these dealers to deal.....I have CASH and none of them want to budge even the amount of sales tax......you'd think I"m trying to pull their teeth.
  10. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
    Messages: 3,256

    I'm guessing you haven't demoed either of them so far?
    Once you do, you'll see that a hydro works very differently then a belt drive.

    Plus the Simplicity deck height adjusts a whole lot easier then the Encore (assuming the Encore is a fixed deck, which at that price would be logical).

    The Simplicity is the pretty much the same as the Ferris HydroCut (Snapper has one too, and I like the looks of their controls better then the others).

    Plus the 34" Simplicity will get through some gates that a 36" won't.

    Seems like a pretty clear answer to me. I know what I'd go with. Good luck.

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