because pipes are like you boots, they dont shoot straight, and lead you all over the . . place before you finally get somewhere, taking turns here, turns there, and lose fish tape in the mix. where is my medication... thats it, time for a good movie-preview-website and bed. ___ P.S. I just realized: Holy ship, Boots did it again, in the same form....although, Jim beat him too it. I love this website. THANKS!!!!!!!! p.s.s what do you mean weeks of planning???