Please help...regarding removing old grass netting

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by uclalumni00, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. uclalumni00

    uclalumni00 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 3

    Please my backyard, there's a patch of what used to be grass, but now is just dried up soil with weeds. I want to prepare the area for an organic veggie garden.

    However when I went to work with the soil...pull weeds, loosen soil, check how deep the soil goes before I hit (concrete?)...I found that I only had about 1.5-2 inches of soil before there was solid bedrock/concrete this possible?...and...oh great, now what? Am I forever unable to plant a veggie garden over this?

    Then, as I work I find there's an old layer of plastic netting. Some parts were broken up as I was de-weeding and raking...I'd try pulling some of it out to toss out, but the whole area is overlaid with the netting. What am I to do with it? It obviously doesn't decompose.

    Thanks in advance for your advice!!
  2. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,372

    I don't know what to tell you... I deal with this a lot when aeration and overseeding. Mine comes from old fescue sod that was put down previously. I Just go over it, clean out the aerator from time to time, and keep going. The stuff is a major PITA but you can't really do anything about it.

    In your case... as you till, clean the tiller or whatever you use and the more you have to clean it, the less that is in the ground?
  3. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    raised beds for anyone? take some of those dead pine and make a box, fill said box with compost and BAM your done.

    hows the seasonal thing going deep??
  4. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,372

    Its coming together slowly but surely. I was going to dive right in but to make sure I don't loose focus on the main business I have decided to put a guy on sales by himself until Nov and then start the heavy ads. I am getting my costs and prices together today, I got half of them done yesterday, and then he will start hanging on flyers on doors in specific high end neighborhoods and shopping centers. I want to think the shopping centers will be easier sells as they are more concious about their appearance.

    Then after aeration and seeding is done in Oct. I can start helping my guy sell and start installs in Nov.

    That is the plan at least... we will see... I am getting shirts and cards and stuff made up this week. Trying to look as professional as possible for our sales.

    Going all LED to keep the whole "green" thing going.

    You started any of this stuff yet?
  5. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    So you have a couple inches of soil over, what may have been a patio and in that thin layer of dirt there is plactic netting?

    Cut the netting in sections starting from one edge and gradually clean off the concrete slab.
    Sounds like a patio garden is the best solution to me as well.
  6. cudaclan

    cudaclan LawnSite Member
    from Zone 5
    Messages: 152

    Hold off on any food crop plantings. You are describing the ramifications of “landfill garbage”. Others consider it as landfill. The plastic netting may be landscape fabric. You may have other “fillers” that may prohibit fertility or health concerns. A (specialized) soil sample needs to be taken. Raised beds will not alleviate the problem as root taps/stems travel in feet for uptake. A home in our neighborhood had tree stumps buried around the yard (from housing development). You say organic product, I say termite haven. Decay and pests created sinkholes on the plot. The home is subjected to settling now. The ancient steam driven sawmill that cleared the community (development) was buried in our backyard.
  7. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    yes just after fat tuesday.LOLOL, we do the street lighting and seasonal at 2 shopping centers, we also do the maint at night.

    cudda, a simple layer of craft paper or (eek) plastic will stop any infiltration, and if its that bad just do a container garden with old wine or whiskey barrels or terracotta pots
  8. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,372

    I renovated my front flower bed. Brand new house, all the bushes the contractor planted died. I told the contractor to just give me the money to buy new plants. I got the plants, brought them home and started digging. I found bottles, cups, tools, and few pounds of white gooey stuff that resembled caulking. I doug a few feet under my lawn getting the stuff out and then started filling it back in with potting soil. I now have the best looking biggest roses in the neighborhood and my gardenias are taking off as well.

    During the whole reno I was PISSED! There is no telling what else is under my lawn...
  9. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,372

    I found a new friend Friday night. Had some whiskey with my bro-n-law who is back on leave from Iraq. He said, "Look, I have to go back to Iraq in a few days so I want to have fun tonight and I need you to have fun with me."

    That was a fun night, got home at 4:30am and woke up about 10am. Went back to my in-laws where he was staying, he woke up about 3:00pm and was not looking too good the rest of the day. I felt fine... here is the kicker, I was drinking "super shots," straight whiskey, and he was drinking wiskey/sours? He wasn't too keen of whiskey. He was a yankee too... if that has anything to do with it. We figured I probably put back about a bottle of the stuff before we got out of there...
  10. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    eh, you will always do better with clean spirits, why do you think my people have made spirits in the hills of the blueridge mountains since before NY was a clearing in the woods, and who did we learn from?? not so much the scotts as the anglo africans of the caribean. my grand dad used to call jack daniels " the new comer" and said his grand father made better booze!!!

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