Plowing with 2WD one ton duallys?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by MikeKle, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. MikeKle

    MikeKle LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I have heard that to plow snow, you need at least a 3/4 ton with 4WD, but if you have a 2WD one ton, it will do fine as well. Ive never seen any 2WD truck that does good in snow, much less trying to plow snow. What makes a 2WD one ton so great for plowing? I had a 3/4 ton 2WD that sucked to even try to drive in the snow, never thought about plowing with it, cause I knew it would get stuck all the time.
  2. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'm not sure either, it would seem like getting to-from the site to be plowed
    would be the greatest challenge?

    They might be talking about a full ton dump truck thou, those things are
    so darned heavy it don't hardly matter lol, although they spin tires some too...
  3. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    I don't know who told you duallys are good in the snow they are horrible you need lots of weight and tire chains. Even a 4x4 dually isn't that good in the snow.

    Any way you slice it you need tire chains.
  4. lawn king

    lawn king LawnSite Silver Member
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    You can plow with a 2wd dually if you run real good rubber, lots of weight in the body and plow smart. I have been plowing with my isuzu npr (9 foot blade) for 8 years.
  5. Swampy

    Swampy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    A few things if your plowing in a 2wd

    -so kind of locking rear end
    -Enough fixed ballest, not salt.
    -A plow wide enough to cover your wheel track
    -Commonsense. I wouldn't do loading docks that go down in the ground. Plow with the snow, don't take on to steep of pavement.

    Sorry GR you come with tire chains on the property owner will tell you to get lost.
  6. MikeKle

    MikeKle LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I guess they were talking about the heavy dump truck one tons? I know duallys suck in the snow, even the 4x4 ones, something about those dual rear tires? There is some areas around here that the cities plow, and I have no idea how their trucks even make it on these hills they are so steep! It is scary to even drive them when its dry!! They use single axle international type dump trucks. I have never seen these getting stuck or spinning tires, Is it the weight of these trucks alone that allow them to get around so good? I have seen 4x4 internationals but our cities do not have them, I bet there is nothing that can stop those!!
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    You can't even plow driveways here a 4x4 backhoe chained up may do it but a pickup with a plow not a chance.

    No snow this year so far thank god :weightlifter: because nobody makes money when it snows absolutely no money in plowing nobody will pay you why would they you can't plow their road its too steep anyhow. Everybody parks their car or truck at the top or bottom of their driveway and walks to the house. Some places its a 1000 foot walk back to the house.
  8. Swampy

    Swampy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    So then don't do residentials, there is very limited money in plowing houses. My comment was more gear towards plowing commerical lots. Why would you plow roads? Don't you have DPW's up there in Canada?
  9. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    The highways dept plows the public roads etc but side roads can be left un-plowed for days. I was stuck at home last year because the roads where I live were not plowed then it froze into ice. You needed chains to get around.

    As for commercial parking lots the malls have a excavation contractor with a rubber tired backhoe scrape the parking lots.

    Pretty hard to compete with a contractor with a backhoe especially if you plow the lot once a day. On the West Coast this isn't snow country it may snow and last for a week then warms up and its gone.

    A plow wouldn't ever pay for itself nobody even has a plow on their truck unless its a municipal vehical but they haven't got used this year.
  10. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 998

    You can plow with a 2wd, but as mentioned, weight is the biggest factor. If you have a 2 ton salter (loaded) in the bed, the weight of the plow on the front end should create a rear weight biased vehicle to aid in tractability.

    BC government should ship the trucks they don't use (with plows) to Britain, I'm sure they'd pay for them right about now.

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