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Plowing with 2WD one ton duallys?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by MikeKle, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. Krafty

    Krafty LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from St. Louis MO
    Messages: 706

    I just finished plowing with a one ton doge dually. I had about 4000 lbs of salt on the back and never once in two in a half days did I put the truck in 4x4.
  2. gene gls

    gene gls LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,213

    I have been plowing with my Mitsi for 9 years. I am limmited to some areas as compared to 4x4.
  3. lawn king

    lawn king LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,383

    I set up my cabover with a 9' snoway because of the downpressure option. If im in a situation that i forsee traction issues, such as plowing a steepe downgrade and having to back out, i engage the DP on my way down to insure good rear traction to get out.
  4. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    You guys snow is drier than what is seen here on the West Coast. The snow here isn't dry and fluffy it can get very wet and heavy. If I say drive my F-450 over some fresh snow where the tires rolled over its compacted ice.

    I litterally have to take a steel bar to chip it off the driveway that is one pass of the tires.

    I have had 3000lbs of weight directly over the drive tires they spin like there is no weight on the truck. Tires spin turn the snow into ice and I'am stuck.

    My truck has a locker so both side spin I have reved my 6.0 PSD to 3500 rpm and went no where. To get any traction here we need to use V bar chains even regular twist link chains can't get enough traction.

    If I had chains on all 4 drive tires and the steer tires it would be good. Lots of times you steer and your not going the direction you want to go :laugh:

    The last heavy snow fall the highways dept needed a Cat 14G grader chained up and steel bladed the road to clear the snow. A regular single axle 5 ton plow trucks couldn't do it. The hills are too steep even with 6 ton of salt and chains on the tires there wasn't enough traction.

    No snow is good for us that white crap is a pain in the azz nobody want to deal with it.
  5. supercuts

    supercuts LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,806

    there is? i hear this so much. i have friends who keeps telling me to get out of them and take on commercial accounts. we go over figures, i plow for less then half the time, sometimes as little as a 1/4 of what they plow and i gross more. we both use 2 trucks. he sands, i dont. i dont have the sand/salt expense, sander expense, or sander repair expense, nor do i need to reload the thing during a storm. i also dont have to worry about covering the sander.

    the only place he beats me is after the snow melts and refreezes he gets to go and sand. im not saying i havent concidered a sander, but what is wrong with driveways? how much do you make a snowstorm doing your commercial accounts?
  6. MLI

    MLI LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ma
    Messages: 464

    I have a mix of resi. and commercial. We do better on small commercial lots, and yes we sand. I have a friend that has 110 resi drives, and I have a mix of about 40. We make the same money,but he has like 10 guys going,while I have 3. Sand/salt mix is so cheap compared to what you make. When I sand my lots, im using about 1/2 yard of sand($30), and do 6 small lots with a Fisher Pro Flow 2 tailgater. I probably make 5k more than the friend each yr. because of this. With that $30 of sand I do about $600 worth of work in about 2 hrs. I did the large sander in the back of the truck, and yes its a pain with loading machine each season, then leaving outside all summer to rust. This little sander unit(although I have to load by hand) is just what we needed. Off the truck in minutes, electric motor,easy to clean!
  7. MikeKle

    MikeKle LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,253

    I would say as long as you have enough residentials to plow, you should be OK, I would prefer doing houses over commercial places, quicker and get paid right there usually. Plus most people would rather their houses be plowed before any businesses are touched!
  8. gene gls

    gene gls LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,213

    Doing residential accounts are fine. They are less demanding, most are push and go, some need shoveling. Anyone doing commerical accounts should have a 0-1" tollarance depending on foot traffic. Also, anyone doing commericals should have thier own sander for better control of slip and fall conditions. As a rule, commerical accounts are more profitable because of foot trafic and the need to maintain safe conditions.There are a lot of business owners that are willing to take the risk of slip and falls verses the cost for safty. I do not take any commerical work that wants a sloppy job for a cheaper price. The end conditions will reflect back on your business by everyone seeing your trucks at the location. Word of mouth is the best advertising so take the time to make sure its good advertising.
  9. rcslawncare

    rcslawncare LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,684

    If there is weight over the drive wheels, you will have no problem. Just make sure you run the right size plow, as mentioned before!
  10. Swampy

    Swampy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,435

    Like gene gls said. Commericals usually avoid the "slip and fall" in a sue happy world. If you could stack Residentials up next each other I could see a profit but if your running hell over high water between them, that is not going to happen. I think I lucked out this year, I plow a Urgent Care medical building they have to have the lot plowed and salted (not sanded) at a 1/2in, something with there insurance.

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