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Plz show me some organic results..

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Rayholio, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Rayholio

    Rayholio LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,461

    LOL It's lookin' good for sure! I'm definately gonna have to start experimenting with different grass types
  2. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,115

    It has been our experience that 2% OM is the minimum, we would like to see 5% to 7% if possible to get a site almost self reliant
  3. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 18,334

    Bill, just thought I would throw this out there. I have seen recommendations in the range of 20-25% (if memory serves me correctly) when starting from scratch. That recommendation came from probably one of the best docs on sustainable lawn care that I have seen. I posted a link to it in this forum a while back. Not sure if it was a recommendation based on typical soils in the region or not. I'll look through the archive and see if I can dig it up when I get a chance.

    Found where I posted the link. Might as well reproduce the entire list (to follow).
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2009
  4. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 18,334

    This link list is almost 1.5 years old, so not sure if all the links will work. The one you will most definitely want to check out is the Ecologically Sound Lawn Care for the Pacific Northwest.

    BTW, There should be plenty of credible information in these links that validate use of compost (in most cases yearly) for those of you who doubt its value.

    Sustainable Landscapes & Habitats

    Environmental Protection Agency:

    GreenScapes Program

    NRCS (Natural Resources Conservation Service):

    Improving Urban Landscapes

    University of Minnesota:

    Sustainable Urban Landscape Information Series (SULIS)

    Oregon State University Extension Service:

    Plant Selection for Sustainable Landscapes

    Seattle Public Utilities:

    Ecologically Sound Lawn Care for the Pacific Northwest

    Building Green:

    Natural Landscaping: Native Plants and Planting Strategies for Green Development

    National Wildlife Federation:

    Create a Certified Wildlife Habitat

    University of Maine:

    Principles for Creating a Backyard Wildlife Habitat

    State of Illinois:

    Creating Habitats and Homes For Illinois Wildlife

    Misc Related Information

    NC State University:

    Sustainable Practices for Vegetable Production in the South

    University of California:

    Soil Fertility Management for Organic Crops

    Soil Management and Soil Quality for Organic Crops

    Statewide IPM Program, Agriculture and Natural Resources, University of California

    Environmental Protection Agency:

    EPA: Integrated Pest Management (IPM) Principles

    University of Vermont SERA-17:

    Referenced Publications From SERA-17

    Colorado State University:

    Xeriscaping: Creative Landscaping

    Organic Materials as Nitrogen Fertilizers

    Texas A&M University:

    Landscape Water Conservation...Xeriscape

    Duke University:

    Long-Term Soil-Ecosystem Studies (LTSEs)

    State of California:

    Coyote Creek Watershed Management Plan. Green Infrastructure Site Design Guidelines


    Sources of Organic Fertilizers and Amendments


    Soil And Water Management

    Organic Gardening: A Guide to Resources


    Building Soils for Better Crops, 2nd Edition

    Holistic Agriculture Library:

    Factors Of Soil Formation. A System of Quantitative Pedology
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2009
  5. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,115

    that should keep me busy for a while (and a half)

    I have been told about soil tests from Idaho that have 0.7% SOM and seen others from the mid west with SOM at 9% and little better. I have never even heard of SOM at 25%, I'll bet that is some rich soil, maybe even too much of a good thing. I'll tell you after I peruse some of the literature

    The recommended minimum I have been taught is 2%, it seems to make sense to me from my limited field experience. if the SOM can get up to 5 to 7% then we can start to get nutrient cycling going

    i don't think anyone disputes that compost is a good thing, too bad it such a PITA to apply
  6. cudaclan

    cudaclan LawnSite Member
    from Zone 5
    Messages: 152

    Thanks Kiril, good reading.
  7. JDUtah

    JDUtah LawnSite Silver Member
    from UT
    Messages: 2,636

    I have seen test results from .7 to 1.8% here... yeah we umm... we need that om....
  8. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 795

    I was digging through our old soil tests the other day and found one with organic matter at 75%. Of course, that is ridiculous and was from the lab I mentioned before that I discovered to be out to lunch. BTW always us a properly accredited lab for soil testing. Many farmers trusted this lab for many years.
  9. roccon31

    roccon31 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 119

    trying to attach pic....
  10. roccon31

    roccon31 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 119

    for some reason i could not get the pics to show here, so i updated my old thread here

    this lawn was spot treated (LARGE spots) with compost, seed, and a light starter fert app in early-mid october of last year. the prep work was key.

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