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2 terrace wall 629 square face feet, half the wall is up half the wall is down.

Also add 7 flights of stairs right smack dab in the middle of the wall, 50 sq ft.

No turns no angles but at the steps.

52 feet of base x 2 (upper-lower) --3 feet high

53 feet of base x 2 (upper-lower) --3 feet high

What can ya come up with?
 

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About 11 or 12 grand, but that would be jsut for the wall. No scapin' or nothin'.
 

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Rex,

While you're showing the picture of that nice wall which is over 4' tall can I ask what you did to ensure no failures? Did you consult with an engineer about soil conditions or is there a more common sense approach you took?

Paver manufacturers beat into us that if the wall is over 4', you must call the engineer. However, I see masons building walls of stone and morter over 4' all the time and I know no engineer was called on that!

Just curious.
 

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There was an existing wall, which we replaced. The first wall was rr ties, very old school. The homeowner and I designed the look, and the manufactures engineering department told us where and how much grid to put in. Soil conditions were typical of the area, very heavy clay with silt. Standard use of a 3/4 minus for the base. Also, 18 inches of clear drainage stone and a couple of drains tied into existing drain tile.

This homeowner had us come back every year and do a project. We did turfstone in his ditch so he could mow it when wet. We did pavers around his pool. We did an accent planter wall. And, we did another Pisa 2 wall in the front.

click here to see the existing rr tie wall

Peace,

Rex
 

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Rex,

This sounds like a more logical (economical) approach. I cannot imagine paying an engineer to come out and do a soil and slope analysis for a residential job. Do all manufucturers you work with have an engineering department for these type of jobs?
 

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The thing about "engineered" or consult with the block mfg.

The engineered drawings and all the BS involved with that.

After doing a few large walls the impracticalities of the so called engineers is about useless. They see everything on paper, use as a guide.

I built a very large wall that had to be torn down 6 times and start over due to not being able to get the right compaction rates.
 

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Some do and some do not. It generally adds about $1.00 a square foot to a wall. I know some principals at smaller geo-technical engineering firms. And, they seem to go out of their way to help me. I use them when we do ICPI classes for the soils part. They in turn take care of me when I need it.

An engineers stamp on a drawing removes all liability from your company as long as you built it per the stamped plan.

Common sense goes a long long way, too. Some cities are requiring a permit, read a drawings and designs must be approved first, for all retaining walls, not just for ones over 4 feet.

LGF is right. There are not many university engineering classes on SRW. I think they kinda learn as they go. And, they receive allot of there information from the manufactures, which can be scary.

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Rex:dizzy:
 

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Rex,
I clicked on the link you posted above. It took me to your web site. You do some very nice work.

I know what you charged for the job on top, would you please share the prices on the others. There's a nice variety of work there. We're just getting started and it helps to see what experienced folks charge for a variety of jobs. Thanks in advance for anythig you can share. -Keith-
 

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Keith,

Thank you for the kind words.

We do so many jobs that I don't remember what most of them cost.

Most of those jobs were done in Ohio. The ranger on paver pricing there was $12.00sf and up. Retaining walls were $30.00 sff and up.

Now I am in Phoenix. Pavers start at $3.00 a sf and go up. Walls are around $22.00 sff and go up.

My point is it all depends on location, market, skill level, selling ability and desired profit.

Peace,

Rex
 

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Rex,
I was a structural inspector for over 10 years , and have worked with a bunch of different materials. Your work looks fantastic !!! I have also had to deal with engineers on a daily basis ,and most of them have absolutely no field experience.

How large of a crew do you use ??

What about equipment ?

Mike

Bitterroot Property Services
Hayden Lake, Idaho
 
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