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Pondless waterfall...what to use

Discussion in 'Water Features' started by hessie, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. hessie

    hessie LawnSite Member
    Messages: 2

    I just looked at a job to build a pondless waterfall and im not sure what kit i should be using, there are so many to choose from and i wanted some feedback on which one is the best bang for your buck!! Thanks
  2. JJS

    JJS LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 334

    I,ve made my own, they're pretty easy to figure out, a trip to home depot, aside from your rubber and ground batting, should take care of what you need, your main item is what you want to spend on the pump.
  3. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    We do LOTS of pondless waterfalls. Just take a look at a few I've posted to our website.

    As for kits, I can tell you right now don't waste your money on the ones that come from AquaScapes. They are hella expensive and you can make your own version of the same thing for much less.

    I don't do kits. I just buy each part individually. But if you want to use a kit, I think the one at the bottom of this page is pretty much what you need;

    http://www.azponds.com/NEW Pond kits.htm

    That kit is pretty much what I buy individually. In addition to that kit, you'll need a PVC one-way check valve, a PVC ball valve (to control flow), some Flex-PVC piping, a pond liner, rock, and gravel.
  4. jasonlandscape

    jasonlandscape LawnSite Member
    from Georgia
    Messages: 124

    Check it out

    Aquascapes vault well snorkell thingy, $700 with the centipede and a cap...

    Big irrigation control valve box $35, drill 1" holes it. figure out a way to get the pvc in it.

    for the top if u wanna do a bog...get a irrigation drain basin with a grate on top and stick the pipe in it. cover it with rock and peagravel.
  5. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    Jason landscape is right. The Aquascape thing is WAY WAY WAY overpriced and overkill too. We often use valve boxes or valve boxes with a few valve box extensions instead.

    PondEco also makes a nice, inexpensive pre-drilled pondless waterfall "vault" that sells for only $115.00 It does about the same thing as the $700 Aquascapes snorkel thingy.

    One thing I'd add to what Jason said, the holes don't even have to be 1". I used to drill holes that big. But just a bunch of quick holes with a 3/8" drill bit works just fine. It allows plenty of water to get in quickly enough.

    TRBIGCREEK LawnSite Member
    Messages: 168


    I founded and manage the water gardening division for the company I work for. We are distributors and authorized dealers for just about everything out there. I'd be glad to help you find the right kit or put together a custom kit for you. Let me know if I can help, my email address is trbigcreek@yahoo.com

  7. Lightscapes

    Lightscapes LawnSite Member
    Messages: 22

    Overkill? I find there is rarely such a thing in the professional contracting market. Most homeowners, if they wanted a DIY-quality installation (which is often what results when using the wrong tool for the job)would be DOING IT THEMSELVES! They hired you because (hopefully) you can install a better product with better workmanship that will last longer, work better, and cause fewer headaches. If you can't (or won't), maybe you shouldn't be taking their money.

    Having said that, the Aquascape snorkel and centipede might be $700, but the Aquascape Microsnorkel and centipede is only $280. The micro fits a majority of the projects done and the standard is only used in much larger projects (which helps to justify the price).
  8. jasonlandscape

    jasonlandscape LawnSite Member
    from Georgia
    Messages: 124

    i actualy think my control valve box is way better, not saying this from experience but the valve box is way bigger and makes room for way more water...plus i can stand on it and jump up and down on it all day long... i mean its made for riding mowers to drive across.
  9. lawnrich

    lawnrich LawnSite Member
    Messages: 112

    Has anyone heard of auqa blocks i just heard about it today and google can't find it.
  10. jasonlandscape

    jasonlandscape LawnSite Member
    from Georgia
    Messages: 124

    an alternative to using rocks....there realy strong

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