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power lines

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by Pro-Scapes, May 4, 2007.

  1. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    Well I sub out my irrigation to a reputable guy in my area. Yesterday it seems the power line feeding the guest house got cut somehow with the ditchwitch sk.

    We didnt trench more than a foot or a tad more in some areas especially that area. I was on site the entire time because I have extensive lighting wires throughout the property. We did hit some old old tree stumps but nothing choked up the trencer light a fat power cable should. Client wants an electrician at my expense now.

    Irrigation man is billing me and im billing the client for the system. I thought the power feed should be 3 ft deep. We didnt come close to that at all. How should I approach this situation. Her tanning bed is out there and might have withdrawls if she cant use it daily.
  2. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 49,435

    You might strike a compromise, and cover the electrician cost - provided the original line was installed according to code, as regards burial depth. (figure it should be a foot-and-a-half) Makes you look fair, and makes the property owner responsible for faulty construction.
  3. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 22,727

    I agree with the bootman....the cost of a repair is cheap & you have a
    happy client. I've always figured on a job, "if you don't hit something, you're
    not working hard enough".
  4. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    ok sounds god. about to head out there now. I saw no signs of lines being cut yesterday except for 1 16ga lighting wire I knew would be cut but I had planned to replace that anyways.

    is 18 inches the NEC code ? If it were just romex i wouldnt worry but this is a main feed to the guest house. from the 300a panel at the house. I thought 3ft was the code.
  5. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 22,727

    Three feet here in Washington...that's a dangerous situation!
  6. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 49,435

    I thought three feet was more or less standard construction practice, especially when one trench carries phone, electric, and cable. But I think that eighteen inches might be the actual code depth. I usually try to mend broken romex myself, and carry a bit of UF cable for repairs.
  7. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    yeah... special clients too.. All I can think of is there used to be several statley oak trees around the prop and they couldnt go deeper. Home is 104 yrs old so you never know what they will find.

    Seems its all been replaced fairly recent tho. There is even servant bells in this home. Press a button in one of the rooms of the house and a bell rings in one of the servants quarters (guest house) The basement was also a secret bar during prohibition. If you pull a lever in the back room a wall slides up to hide the bar. Secret door out back that leads to a back walkway to the alley as well.

    Boots its not romex i think its like 2/0 or something. I will go look now and try and get some pics if I find everything and document it all .
  8. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 49,435

    2/0 would be a bit advanced, compared to the kind of wire-nuts-and-silicone-potting repairs I make to lamp lines, and the like.

    I wonder if they have any as-built drawings you can get copies of, to be prepared for further work.
  9. sheshovel

    sheshovel LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,112

    Don't you have a Call- before- you- dig phone # there? All the power companies do here. You call three days in advance and they come out and mark all the underground power line locations for you free. They mark along where they run.
    Just to avoid those problems.
  10. JeffY

    JeffY LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    Yeah, but they don't do private lines such as the one he hit. They will only locate from the source to the main panel and that is it as that is only the power companies responsibilty. Everything after the main panel is the homeowners responsibility. The code says 18" deep for dwelling related purposes.

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