Guys I bought 6 of james' (led direct or whatnot) mr16 bulbs about a month ago to install at my estimator's home. We had some huge oaks to downlight out of. Being that budget was a bit of a concern I didn't get to use the copper moon tree light that I wanted to (she knows the prices as you might imagine) so I ordered some of the downlights from landscape lighting world, a good value-price fixture in my opinion. You can imagine my dismay when the bulbs wouldn't fit!!! Just a smidgen too short to get the housing closed all the way. Well I had to drop back and punt and luckly had some alliance dl100s/dl200s and my one coppermoon tree light (officially my favorite downlight now) The led did fit in those, but of course the dl100s shroud is a bit shorter than what I would want but got it done in time for the surprise (didn't tell when I was doing it) On to the praise... the bulb color was awesome, James you did good. Love the look and the spread was great from where we put them.