After 20 plus years I finally bit the bullet and took my LCLM test so I could do weeds. I'm still not sure if I want to, but more and more guys are just doing it so it is becoming an issue being honest and telling customers I won't/can't do weeds. With the amount of products out there and the cost involved in some of them, I figured I'd better try and get some input on what would be a good all around pre emergent to get me started. Or does anyone know of a place that one could get small "sample size" quantities of products that you could test out. Also, if anyone has a descent broadleaf post-emergent over the top they could recommend, especially for use on junipers that would be awesome.