pre-emergent out of a ride on?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by inzane, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. inzane

    inzane LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,474

    I'm trying to figure out if i'm gonna get me a skid sprayer or some type of ride on such as a ground logic or permagreen. I'm gonna have to get something by the fall when I start spraying my bermuda lawns again.. my 50 gal skid sprayer is not gonna be enough. How well are the results from spraying pre-emergents out of a ride on sprayer?? i'd like to be able to spray barricade 4fl or dimension out of the permagreen, as well as my post emergent. i was told that with the low volume spraying you may have to go over a lawn twice to get the proper rate down of a pre-emergent out of a ride-on. that just doesn't sound faster to me. my avg size lawns are 6k to 8k there are plenty of bigger yards out there to get in my area, and ive seen the competition using permagreens year round from what i've seen and they seem to be getting great results even on the smaller yards. Its hard to make up my mind about something that i don't know much about though. got an e-mail from that ground logic guy explaining it a bit, but i'm not quite sold on it yet.
  2. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,649

    IMO, if you want that "style of machine, the Ground Logic is the way to go.

    As far as spraying low volume, there's no need to go over the lawn twice. I would use L's, EC's or FL's for sure. I would stay away from the dry formualtions of pre's.(tends to clog) Also, it's pretty hard to get simazine to flow properly when used at label rates. Too thick.

    DG's and DF's are fine when the rate per acre is lower such as some of the post emergent herbicides for warm season turf.

    I use a Z-spray now and it works great. I used to have a PG Ultra that I sprayed pre's with and it worked great as well.
  3. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,924

    Ground Logic is merely an improved version of a Permagreen. Z-Sprays are too cumbersome, bulky, & complicated for his needs. Kinda surprised you didn't mention the TURFCO T3000i. Just wonderin'. Nothing against Ground Logic cuz we see them around once in awhile.
  4. kbrashears

    kbrashears LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 777

    Whatever. I could work circles around your guys with my ZMax on 6-8m yards all day long.
  5. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,649

    Key word is "improved". That's why I gave him my opinion that the Ground Logic would be the better of the 2.

    He already knows what "style" of machine he wants. It's obviously the type with an articulating joint. There's no reason to try to talk him into something else. He can change his own mind...for pete's sake.

    You didn't see me trying to talk him into a Z-spray, did you? By the way, they're only complicated for "simpletons"

    Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and included.

    Your just so damned pushy with yours that it gets on peoples nerves...

    Give it a rest already...
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2013
  6. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,649

    Also, the question was(since you obviously missed it in your rush to post something about your choice of ride-on)

    Can pre's be sprayed out of a ride-on?(paraphrased)

    The answer is yes...with confidence.
  7. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,154

    Doubt that. I wouldn't want to put a beast like that on a small lawn, bull in a china shop.

    Also for OP - I wouldn't do pre's out of a ride on, at least liquid that is. Just fling it that is what rideon's do best.
  8. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
    Messages: 4,336

    Drive a garden tractor then a full size ztr. Circles, drag races, or in reverse the ztr would win. Same differnce between the z and t.
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  9. inzane

    inzane LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,474

    i wouldn't mind all granular pre emergent and just spraying my post emergent out of the ride on.. however, granular pre is too expensive for me compared to the liquid, if i can't do liquid pre emergent out of the ride on i'll get a skid sprayer. it is very tempting to go with a permagreen in order to make the job easier and faster, however.. i'm afraid to try something new and my gut tells me to stick with what i know. lol. I think if i can find a used PG that may be a good starting point to test the waters.

  10. gregory

    gregory LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,074

    Ted you guys left out some important info on a T3000 that larry has told us.. and thats you can play frisbee while using your T3000...

    dont know how things are done up there but i am just a plain home owner and when i spray my yard i dont have anybody in my yard.. so i dont play frisbee when i am using my z spray jr...

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