Here's a pic of my lawn. It's 635 feet deep & 135 feet wide. The front half is always treated with pre & fert, but the back half never gets treated except for broadleaves once a year. The back half always gets tons of foxtail & some crabgrass (see how brown it is cuz the annual grassy weeds are going dormant - I realize this is my fault). Any of you guys just apply "pre" with no fert? rscvp, thanks p.s. That is a "burn pile" in the middle cuz we can burn here.