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Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by White Gardens, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    We are just finishing up a 150 sq/ft paver sidewalk.

    The HO had the bricks, they were left over from a previous brick patio he did himself in the rear of the house.

    So basically we had to remove the concrete walk, and buy everything else.

    Seems like it's taking forever as it has a soldier course and a couple of curves. We ended up having to miter the soldiers and that took a while.

    So, what do you think your charge would have been?

  2. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    One day, 2 grand
  3. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Right where we are at on price.


    Seems like it takes me and one other guy wayyyyyyy to long to knock out these types of projects.

    Not sure what I'm doing wrong, or just spending too much time in making sure it's right.

  4. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I don't do many pavers, a couple dozen, but a have found that three people make it go a lot faster. One staging, one handing to the layer, and one laying. Then when the stager gets ahead and can start sanding and compacting. Once done laying, the layer and the one handing can begin pre-sweeping or putting in edging. Whatever order you like to so it in
  5. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    something many people do not realize is that small projects can take just as long as any other project. You can lose money on a 1-2 day project if you have no business instinct
  6. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Part of the problem was heat this week. We took long lunch breaks and also multiple breaks through the day.

    Another problem was was dump truck was down and had to make extra trips for base material and the such.

    Another problem feels like me taking too much time splitting hairs and making sure it came out perfect, or as close as possible.

    Last problem was the HO being on site constantly. Which, wasn't the worst thing in the world, just makes me nervous.

    And ultimately, I'm looking for a property now to be able to stock-pile more materials. Going to the yard to get stuff is cutting into my time.

  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    In terms of heat, I always factor in more hours if I know the job will be done July through August. If I price the job in the spring it's only valid for 30 days.

    People work slower in the heat. I MAKE my guys work slower in the heat. And I MAKE the stop to drink water. Therefore, the jobs will be slightly higher in cost.
  8. Agape

    Agape LawnSite Bronze Member
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    In labor? For 2 guys, or 3+ guys?
  9. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Ended up doing that too. Brought the price up a few hundred bucks. Also originally we thought we were going to do a simple running bond with no border. But it got changed up before the final estimate. Ended up having to cut a ton of half bricks, the curves, and the mitering on the soldier course. That's what ate up most of our time on the installation. I'm so anal on the final product that we marked all the bricks, lifted them, and then cut them on a brick table to get a clean look. I know just setting the bricks, then using a chop saw and cutting the curves is faster, but I don't like the results.

    One other thing I realized too is that I personally only do a couple of hardscaping jobs a season. Makes me wonder if not doing them regularly makes it harder where there is never any real rhythm in doing them. So it makes each one a challenge so to speak. That and it's not like you have a core group of guys doing them to where you can knock them out faster.

  10. Red Shed Landscaping

    Red Shed Landscaping LawnSite Member
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    Cutting the pavers they way you did is the way we do it too. It takes longer but looks better.

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