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price help ??

Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by nlmct, Aug 16, 2013.

  1. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    I will say it again "NO" job takes 1 hr. It is so effin important to know this...
  2. JNyz

    JNyz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,087

    Ok, let's hear how jobs don't take 1 hour to do.

    We do plenty of jobs over the year that take 15-40 minutes and we bill out 1 crew hour. Please fill me in on Sunday morning while I am getting billing ready for next weekend.

    I am always interest in listening to different points of view after 26 years in business.
  3. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    After 26 years in business I am surprised you don't even 1/2 agree with me. In a few months it will be our 40 year anniversary, massive party planned.

    Look its simple, a stand alone hedge trimming job sure direct labor of physically trimming the hedge 1 hr. ok I will buy that.

    Now lets look at the true time cost for this 1 hr. job, customer calls our office for a hedge trimming job after brief pleasantries on the phone linda or sue gets down to actually taking the order of the hedge trimming job if the customers requires a date of when this will take place she has to open a window on her desk top and see what the current work load of the maintenance crews looks like and determine a date. if this is a cold call and not a current customer it takes even longer due to the fact info needs to be entered into the database. if they require a cost estimate for this 1 hr. hedge trimming job well that will take even longer. is linda or sues potential 10 minutes on the phone free? no its not. info beamed to the shop where someone takes the time to write this on the maintenance white board along with equipment list and any special instructions sue may have acquired on the phone with customer. could this have all taken maybe 4 minutes? crew arrives at 7 reads white board crew leader starts yelling load this up move it... crew grabs the trimmers off the trimmer racks in shop and loads the truck. could this have taken 4 minutes, if we are lucky sure. now this small insignificant 1hr. tops hedge trimming job is potentially at 14 minutes so far. ok now we drive could it take ten minutes to get their? in a dream maybe. lets say it does so now we are at 24minutes. could it take 2 minutes for the crew to jump out grab equipment fire it up and trim? sure if were lucky lets say it does now this 1 hr. insignificant hedge trimming job is potentially at 26 minutes. and the trimmers were just fired up..... trim clean up. hear is your 1 hour. now we are at 1hr. and 26 minutes crew leader signs production sheet attesting this job was completed to our standards and lists actual equipment used and for how long and who was on the job, he submits this to the office. could this have taken 2 minutes? sure now we are at 1 hr. and 28 minutes. now the billing is done. production sheet is taken equipment used put in a database customer billed invoice created printed folded sealed and ran through the postage machine. and mailed could this have taken 5 minutes? sure if were lucky but I really think it takes longer. Now hear we are this simple 1 hr. trimming job is now at 1 hr. and 33 minutes. and I haven't even accounted for the disposal of the 4 green barrels filled with clippings, all these times are on the extreme conservative side. if those were actual mobilization times I would have a stroke of happiness and a lot of people would be getting raises. now after 4 minutes of typing all of this, I cant help but feel I wasted my time because you have been in business 26 years and think their is a landscape maintenance job that takes 1 hour of true cost. Can I have the 4 minutes of my life back please?
  4. JNyz

    JNyz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,087

    I just wasted 1 minute reading that.

    Thread started with wanting to know how much to charge for hedge in pic. My charge would of been around $250.00 and my 3 man crew would of whipped that out in 30 minutes. If they couldn't't do it in 30 minutes they wouldn't't be working for me. My labor rate is $60.00/hr. The total time I would of had in that job would of been 1 hour. Trust me, I know more about expenses than most contractors.

    Yes there are 1 hour jobs and most of the time the profit is higher.

    Stick to the thread next time.
  5. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    Stick to the thred? You asked a question, in post #3 you stated it is a 1 hr. Job now in your latest post you say its a 30 minute job you shaved 30 minutes so nice to see your consistent you operate like this often?
  6. jsslawncare

    jsslawncare LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,673

    This thread makes me question everything I know about pricing jobs!!!

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