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Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by P.Services, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,319

    im on the excavating job i have been posting pictures of and wanted to pick brains. this is a very hard question to really answer but we can try to throw a few numbers around.

    the site invloves digging out the clay/topsoil and then trucking it about 200 yards up a hill and dumping it then doing it over until a shallow boul is made. the "bowl" will be about 100'x100' and 4' deep so im figuring about 1,925 yards of dirt will come out. this really isnt that big of a project at all, i honestly belive with the pc200 and tiaxle it can be done in a 14 hour day no problem. ( it takes under 10 minutes per dump load return cycle). the dump zone requires no aditinal dozing or grading.

    it will use about 500 dollars of fuel and the operator is not paid a wage (dad, part of his profit)

    i have allready bid and got the job but my dad thinks its worth five times what i offerd to pay him.

    any one ever keep a price per yard in mind? any one want to toss a... i think its worth.....
  2. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    Figure 6 cycles per hour and by the looks of how you heaped that truck, I'd say you're getting about 14 yards in that truck. So 85 yards/hr X 14 hours = 1,200 yards. Even if you could get 100 yards/hr, you still would be shy of your goal.

    I think it's going to take you about 20 hours to get this job done. We can work the numbers backwards, instead of bidding by the yard, we can figure roughly how long it's going to take and work from there to establish your cost per yard. You can't bid by the yard unless you have a pretty good idea of how much material you can move per hour. Every minute that machine isn't throwing material into the truck, you're losing money, just keep that in mind if you decide to bid by the yard.

    Don't know what a 200 runs per hour out there, but around here they're about $140/hr.. $140/hr for 20 hours is $2800. Figure the truck at $80/hr and you tack on another $1600. Total bid price is $4,600. Your cost per yard is about $2.42, not too bad and that sounds about right.
  3. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    the truck is actully hauling between 22-24 yards. i took mesurments of the bed to figure this.

    michigan has a very slow economy thus the price of a 200 has gone down around 100 per hour (even lower if you know who owes what) i was giving him $4000 to do this job so that sounds about right to me.

    he pulled his machines out of the sand box today because i told him thats what the job pays take it or leave it. looks like my ct332 is gona be humpin alot of dirt.
  4. mrsops

    mrsops LawnSite Silver Member
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    how do you figure on 1,925 yards of dirt coming out
  5. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    100x100x4= 40000 cubic feet % 27= 1481 cubic yard x 1.3 = 1925 cubic yards
  6. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I get 1400 and some change. Factor in the swell and 1900 is a safe number maybe a little high. If the swell was 20% you would still be high by a couple hundred yards, but again better safe than sorry.

    I have had several jobs this year that I have moved over 3000 yards with a skid steer (465 with 84" bucket with splash guard). Sometimes it is what it is. Not always the most efficient when your dealing with those kinds of yardages, but I have run into issues of space and getting wheel loader to fit on site is sometimes not an available option.
  7. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    Yeah, 100X100X4 is 1,481 yards by my calculation, plus the fluff factor. Your 33% swell is more than enough I believe.
  8. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    oh sorry i was always tought to use a 30% "fluff factor" thats why i said 1.3
  9. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    i belive that statment sums it up, dad says hes done!! so im going to do it with my ct332 and my kodiak. im fully aware this is not going to be a production excavating job and will take some time but it will get done one way or another even if i had to use a wheelbarrow i dont let people down nor do i go back on my word/bid.

    im going to call and get a good size tooth/digging bucket for my machine tomorrow
  10. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    Right, but 1.3 is technically 33% if you want to be gnats ass.

    Don't buy a tooth bucket, you'll be upside down on this job if you go that route.

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