problems with quotes

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by rslawnscapes, May 6, 2006.

  1. rslawnscapes

    rslawnscapes LawnSite Member
    Messages: 19

    I just quoted a 150000 squarefeet mowing job.i based my price on square foot x quote was 195.00.she looked at me like i had 2 heads.she said her last guy was doing it for 80.00.and was getting quotes in the 80-90 dollar range.yes these are weekly quotes.After some math i figured to be competitive i need to charge.0006 per square last bid was twice as high as everyone else too.168000 square feet and on a hilly lawn.I bid 185.00 on that job.they hired a guy who could do it for 80.00.I think i'm finding out the lawncare in my area is dirt cheep or my formulas don't work.maybe it's the square foot formula.any feedback would be helpful.HELP!I need work!
  2. wski4fun

    wski4fun LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 323

    so that's about 20 bucks an acre right? I thought you're quote was a little low at twice that.
  3. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    150k is about 3.5 acres, just slightly less because an acre is 43,560 square feet so it comes out to 3.44 acres. Take away the house and the driveway, you're probably down to 3.4 but that's still close enough to 3.5

    Standard rate for that would be around 170-175 (4 acres is 195) but that's in virginia... You're in vermont? Well, stuff is higher up north, I dare say your quote was actually right on the money. But even if it's off don't feel bad quoting her if you're just barely out in left field a little bit while she's not even in the same ballpark... 80 dollars for 3+ acres is a joke no matter how you look at it, lady must've thought you might be kinda dumb (no offense).

    You did the right thing, be glad you didn't try to get the job by bidding low, that would've been far worse, guaranteed.
  4. cwlawley

    cwlawley LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 470

    Give them your card and tell them to call you when their other guys quit bc it is too hot and they aint making enough money to stay in business.
  5. SOMM

    SOMM LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 425

    we second CW's motion.
  6. AAELI

    AAELI LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 360

    What is your cost per acre? How many acres do you mow per hour? I realize the lowballer will cost you lost business until he flops but when that happens you can be sure you are still around to re-bid intelligently. I have mowed at $15 - $150 per acre... all depends on my cost to do the job at hand. I turn down all jobs that do not allow me a profit. Only exceptions are for widows and military wives of serving members. I support those even at a loss.
  7. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    In the first place, I would stay away from all the .00000000000006 per sq. ft. stuff. It is totally inaccurate, too complex, and just leads you wrong at times. What costs more, a place with 44,000 sq. ft., or a place with 30,000 sq. ft. and 1200 linear ft. of fencing to trim?
  8. cessnasovereign

    cessnasovereign LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 292

    Yep. According to that junk, my yard would be $71.25.. You would get LAUGHED out of the neighborhood cause lowballers come out here for $20-25 amd regular guys charge $30-35 max.
  9. nekos

    nekos LawnSite Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 66

    im far from an expert on the larger lawn's < the biggest lawn i do is only 1/2 acre > but for me it seem's the easiest way to estimate a property is by time , how long it will take. im sure it's not the most accurate but im usually pretty close to making what i want per hour.
  10. Fowen22

    Fowen22 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 15

    First ask yourself how much does it cost u to mow for 1 hour. Include gas, labor, and add some extra for lawn blades and edger blades and repairs. Then figure how much u want to be making per hour. Get a rough price.

    Okay now figure u mow a half acre lawn 4 times a month during the summer. It takes me 15 - 20 mintues. So for the whole month u are there for an estimated 1 hour. So i charge 75 to 90 dollars depending on the amount of eding, weedeating i have to do, such as aaround fences and such.
    So this adds up to about $20 dollars a cut for 15- 20 mintues of work. Its Been working Pretty well for me. Any questions just ask.:cool2:

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