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Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by Superior L & L, Oct 2, 2008.

  1. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    Any plant can be trimmed. Yes.

    But....home owners seem to somehow forget to trim them. All you have to do is drive down any street where the dwellings are 10+ years old to see what I'm talkin about.

    Also, plants are like kids. You cut their hair, but the kids keep growing! Same goes for plants, you can shear them all you want....but the branches and limbs continue to grow :) You have to use FORESIGHT when planting!

    I'd say that 3 times a week I have clients ask us to do things that sound good, but based on experience - I know it's not a good idea, or that it's out of sequence of the principles of architecture. This is when it becomes our duty as competent professionals to educate the client.
  2. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 567

    I totally agree with the 10 year old landscape comment. Many people plant stuff and never touch it. You can plant something that should grown to 4' but if you never trimm it will keep growing! But we do all our designs based on mature plant size. Its funny when you see the new landscaper come into town and do these big "fancy" landscapes and in three years it all over grown and over planted.
    You are also way right on the twigging out of shrubs. I belive trim them or dont trim them plants only have a 12-15 year life span before they get too bare or twigged out
  3. crab

    crab LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 633

    DVS i would love to see some of you're mature plantings.
  4. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    what block is that on the firepit?
  5. DouginGB

    DouginGB LawnSite Member
    Messages: 3

    That fire pit looks big enough to not have used fire brick. As long as ya build a wide enough pit, I've never had a block crack.
    Now if you are building an outdoor fire place, or a real tight pit, then there is no way i would do it with out fire brick.
  6. POPO4995

    POPO4995 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,208

    Good job Superior
  7. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 567

    The block for the walls and fire pit is Unilock Brussels Dimensional
  8. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    Thats what I thought. Unilock claims that the density of their blocks does not require a fire brick liner.
  9. wurkn with amish

    wurkn with amish LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 662

    Well If I still lived at my old house I could show you guys that yes fire brick is needed. I got Brussells to crack in 1 year in my fire pit.
  10. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    I'm not comfortable with using hardscape block for firepits.

    Ya know, I'm not that old in age, but this is a subject where I have the Old School mentality. I believe if you're going to do anything pertaining to fire that it should be with true masonry or stone products lined with fire rated material.

    I have yet to see government approved fire ratings for any hardscape block on the market.

    From a liability standpoint - I'm scared of the stuff. If something happens 8 years from now, I could be held liable. If someone got hurt and an investigation were to be conducted, and it was determined that we used a product that wasn't certified to be used for fire related applications - I could kiss everything I worked so hard to get goodbye, even if the client insisted that we use it. As professionals - it's our duty to tell them "NO".

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