Thanks kirk for being up front. I just purchased it in the last 20 minutes. I will have plenty of time to play with it. I maily install new yards and build retaining walls. I have gotten my feet wet in the last couple of years with shrubbery and has worked out. I guess my main goal is to be able to sell my job easier with a quality image as it will provide. Like for example of showing a customer on a steep slopes placing 2 walls to help elinamate an ugly bank.