This thread couldnt be any more true!! I was so upset last week, I bid on our city's "non-compliance" residential work, they wanted it in an hourly rate. I came in second with a bid of $50 an hour followed by 55 65 all the way up to 100 an hour by many of the respectable large companies in town. The winner got it with a low bid of $25 an hour. UN-FRICKEN-BELIEVABLE!!!!!! My gas and employee cost is almost that. Long story short it is a start up business this year with no experience, the kids website says he just got home from iraq and started up this winter. I called him to say congrats and goodluck with your new business! I expect a call from the city by late April or May!