I just got a used Toro 40 belt drive with pistols. It was that or an Exmark 30. Compared to the 30 Exmark, the Toro is a ***** to drive but the cut is simply superb. That cant be said for the 30 inch and thats why I bought the Turboforce deck. For me the stripes need to be there or the cut just isnt good enough to charge for.