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Purchased new home with 2.5 Acres

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by osueric27, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. osueric27

    osueric27 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 25

    Greetings All!

    My wife and I just purchased a new home sitting on 2.5 acres. 98% of the land is absolutely flat with a slight grade going up to the pool. The property was built in 2003 and there are only about 8 very small trees to mow around on the property. The landscaping is just around the perimeter of the house. So all in all there is not a lot to mow around. The grass has been very well maintained and is Kentucky 31 tall fescue. By the way we are in Southern Indiana to give you an idea of the climate conditions.

    Ok, having said all of that my previous home I used a push mower on a small lot. I am now in the market for at least a 52" ZTR. I have been researching on this site and others and have narrowed down my choices to 4 mowers. My price range is around the $5k mark. Here are my options in no order:

    Bob Cat Fastcat Pro 52" 22HP Kawasaki - $5499 (Initial price from dealer)
    Hustler Fastrak 54" 21 HP Kawasaki - $5899 (Initial price from dealer)
    Bad Boy ZT 60" 27HP Kohler - $4999 (Initial price from dealer)
    Gravely ProTurn 60" 4 HP Kawasaki - $4999 (Initial price from dealer)

    So far I have only riden the Bob Cat and really liked it but will be giving test rides to the others soon. From specs, warranty, and dealer I am leaning towards the Bob Cat. However, the Bad Boy price is very appealing and it seems to be a well built machine. My only concern is the Kohler engine which I am hearing some bad reviews. But since I am not using this as a commercial mower I think it should be ok. I really like the Hustler as well but the price is pretty steep and I think the Bob Cat is just as good a machine as the Hustler overall. The Gravely is a nice price and a Kaw engine but the deck and components seem to be built as strong.

    All opinions are welcome and I would really like to hear from some folks with similar needs that have one of these mowers and what their experience has been.

    Thanks for the help!

  2. Capemay Eagle

    Capemay Eagle LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,752

    I like the Bobcat or the Hustler! I actually like them all, but if this was my decision, it would be these two. I was looking pretty hard at a Fastcat till I stumbled on to my Super Duty which was a leftover and I saved a good chunk of change. Your best bang for the buck are going to be the Bad Boy and the Bob Cat. There is a thread above in the forum, actually the first thread called ZTR discussion thread. There is a couple recent buyers of the Bobcat 52" Fastcat that posted some info in there. Allot of good reads in there if you would like to research a little more.
  3. Mason72

    Mason72 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 29

    you should be able to get the base FT a little cheaper. Or for a couple of hundred more get the HD.
  4. mberry

    mberry LawnSite Member
    Messages: 11

    I just purchased a 2011 54" Fastrak with a 24 HP Kaw for less than $5,300 in Western PA. I believe the 21 HP you are looking at is last year's model and I would think you could get a good discount for this reason. If the dealer does not move on the price, I would go with the Fastcat Pro.
    Fyi, I looked at Scag, Bad Boy, Bob-Cat, Bunton, Dixie Chopper, Exmark, Walker and obviously Hustler. In the end it came down between Bob-Cat and Hustler. I got the better deal on the Hustler and felt more comfortable with the dealer. Only have 3.4 hours on it so far, but am very satisfied with it.
  5. rwaters

    rwaters LawnSite Senior Member
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    Messages: 731

    I have sold the Badboy and currently sell the Hustler and Bobcat. You might want to check on the Hustler prices as I think something got messed up the 2011 54 Fastrak has a 24 hp kawasaki engine on it, so they could have gave you the wrong price as well. The Fastrak super duty has a 26hp Kawasaki but that sounds more like the price you have.

    Ok as for the differences

    Both the Bobcat and Hustler run the ZT3100 Transmissions and Kawasaki FX engines(commercial engine). Both have a lifetime frame and leading edge of the deck warranty. The Bobcat has a 5 year(parts and labor) consumer warranty on the drivetrain and Hustler has a 4 year(parts and labor).

    The Badboy ZT mower has a Kohler Courage engine(a consumer engine will not last nearly as long as the Kawasaki FX) and a ZT2800 Transmission(same as th ZT3100 but with plastic gears instead of metal) As well as a 2 year warranty(1 year Parts and Labor 1 year Labor only).

    As for the Gravely I can not help as I do not know the exact model you are talking about.
  6. mberry

    mberry LawnSite Member
    Messages: 11

    The Fastrak's have Kawasaki FS engines but the Fastrak SD's and Fastcat Pro's have the Kawasaki FX engines.
    Stepping up from the Fastrak to Fastrak SD gets you folding ROPS, larger HP FX engine and larger fuel capacity. I seriously considered getting the SD but in the end I could not justify the price increase. I personally did not need the folding ROPS or larger fuel capacity, but the extra 2 HP FX engine was tempting.
  7. rwaters

    rwaters LawnSite Senior Member
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    Messages: 731

    your correct on the 2011 engine I forgot about the change this year. But still a better engine then the Kohler Courage.
  8. Capemay Eagle

    Capemay Eagle LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,752

    Yep, you had me thinking for a minute about that one.

    But I have another question if you know the answer! Someone posted that the EZT trans is only good for 200 hours, I know that cannot be right. What is the life expectancy of the EZT trans. I would have to think at least 500 hours?
  9. saw n mow

    saw n mow LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 273

    As of 2010, I believe the ZT's have ZT3100 hydros.

  10. Capemay Eagle

    Capemay Eagle LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,752

    Yes the ZT has the 3100's and the CZT has ZT3400's

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