Ok Im starting to look for a new truck before fall gets here. I have been thinking about getting a F250 or F350 with a power stroke. The only problem that I have is that I just started thinking about a F450 with a dump steak body. I was on a renovation / install yesterday and today and had about 3,000 pounds worth of stone, dirt and other debris that I took off the job site and wheeled into the trailer. I am getting tired of handling debris twice though. It wears both myself and my helper out twice as much, it also sucks when we are at the dump busting our butts for the second time with this crap and another company backs up beside us and just hits the button and he is in and out in less then two minutes. My main question is how do you guys with dump beds get the debris up into it with out a Bobcat or something like it? Would I be better off just getting a F350 with a 8ft bed and then buying a dump trailer. I was also thinking that it would be better to have the F450 for snow removal since having the extra weight of the spreader in the back would not be as hard on a dually versus a single rear wheel F350. Thanks for any suggestions or advise.