How would you go about convincing landscapers to be proactive in pitching lighting to their clients? What about trying to get involved with the landscaper early in the project by creating a lighting design based on the landscapers layout and offering it to the client as a complete package. I feel if I can make this process simpler for the landscaper they may be more proactive with their clients. I already pay a referral fee to some and swap referrals with others. Perhaps putting educational material together along with other promotional propaganda.....?