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Rain Bird ESP-SMT Smart Controller

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by JimLewis, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 49,446

    That'll teach you to bad-mouth Lawn Genie :p
  2. Sprinkus

    Sprinkus LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,237

    Had a 25% failure rate on Eagle Rotors on initial install a year ago.

    Messages: 18,668

  4. SoCalLandscapeMgmt

    SoCalLandscapeMgmt LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,014

    LOL... thats why you don't post pics of a product and of it's manuals all over the internet when said product was given to you to test on a confidential basis!

  5. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,854

    Is that an actual statistic? Where did you get that number from?
  6. Sprinkus

    Sprinkus LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,237

    From actual install that I was directly involved in. Had loose parts in heads on some, others did not rotate, many others stopped rotating after only a very short time in service.
    108 rotors were installed, around 27 had to be replaced. In fact I am still replacing internal units on a regular basis.Good thing that they have a five year warranty when installed with the manufacturer's swing joint.
  7. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 22,730

    Did RB step up to the plate and comp your labor for the change-outs? They did for me when the T-Birds failed out of the box.
  8. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,854

    I believe you. But I don't think RB pulls product for recall when one single contractor has a bunch of heads fail. May just be a bad batch. The .025 failure rate for pulling product for recall is nationwide, and I think you knew that. So unless you know that that variety of head was going out at that same percentage nationwide, I am not sure how your argument applies to the recall conditions I was speaking of....

    It's like if you said that Nabisco pulls product if more than 3% of their product has problems and I replied with, "Oh yah! I opened a box of Oreos once and like 30% of the box was rotten!!! So why don't they pull Oreos from the shelf??? Huh?"
  9. Sprinkus

    Sprinkus LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,237

    Store credit for troubles with initial install.
  10. Sprinkus

    Sprinkus LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,237

    Product has been discontinued.
    Newer rotor internals continue to fail.
    Distributor has mentioned that others have had similar problems.
    I'm done whining.
    I feel much better now.

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