Guys, I kind of agree with this discussion. I've owned bobcats in the past(3 3 wheeled riders)had good luck with them, but the industry seemed to pass them by. Everyone else went to bigger tires, wheel motors, electric deck lifts, etc., and Ransomes seemed to fall behind. This is kind of sad, since Ransomes developed the first lawn mower with an engine. They've been in existence since God was a pup. I honestly think, since the buyout by Textron, that things will only get better. They are indeed a major player in the golf course industry, and hopefully will again become one in the commercial arena as well. Thanks, Lynn