Relationships with LCOs in your area?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Remsen1, May 12, 2005.

  1. Remsen1

    Remsen1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,020

    On a scale of 1-10 what is the value to having interaction with LCOs in your area? I'm thinking that it would be pretty high, but I want to know what you think. For those of you who have large successful operations, that may not benefit greatly from this anymore, answer from a perspective of when you were still trying to grow your business.

    I didn't know who I was talking to right away, but after we talked for a while I found out that I was talking to one of the largest most respected landscapers in my area, one whose work I have admired for quite some time. It turns out that his company owns one of the landscape supply retailers in my area, and I was asking him questions about plants and shrubs. He asked me about my operation and, he seemed really supportive and answered all of my questions and even gave me some take home materials. I gave him one of my cards and he said that we would be in touch, I'll make sure that we are.
  2. kc2006

    kc2006 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,443

    Around here the big dawgs want nothing to do with anyone else and there so many fly by night operations that no one wants to associate with because they're lowballers. The middle of the road guys are all nice though, the ones that are still working in the field with their crew or crews. Its like anywhere else, the middle class if you want to call it that sticks together well, we back eachother up.
  3. nelbuts

    nelbuts LawnSite Bronze Member
    from SW, FL
    Messages: 1,053

    I would say about an 8.

    I have been around long enough that most know me and either like me or can't stand me. But isn't that the way it is in life? Funny thing when I give estimates I never ask who does the property. I ask what are they doing that you do not like. If I agree with homeowner then I will play it up big time. If LCO is correct then I will defend them even though I do not know who they are.

    It works out pretty good but I will say I am not treated the same way.
  4. DennisF

    DennisF LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 1,381

    Where I'm at, most of the solo LCO's will share info, but the big companies despise us small operators.

    That's OK with me since the big LCO's can't compete with most of the solo LCO's anyway, so I don't need to share info with them.

    But it would benefit all of us if there were more legal operators that would work together and not try to cut each others throat.

    It's the illegal operators that hurt this least here in Florida.
  5. packerbacker

    packerbacker LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,433

    I worked for a guy for almost 6 years before going into business for myself. We still keep in touch on a regular basis (2-3 times a week). We send each other business when we can and he has always pointed me in the right direction when I need help. He's a larger company servicing over 500 residential and commerical accounts.

    I always wave to other LCOs and for the most part I get a wave back.

    I think its very important to keep a good rapport with other LCOs. Of course we are in competition with each other but there is no reason why we cant be nice to each other.

    Ive told other LCOs in my area you have seen where I live to come by any time they see me out and have a beer with me after work.
  6. Turf Technologies

    Turf Technologies LawnSite Senior Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 587

    Allways enjoy talking to others in the buss. Ill even give a few a helping hand from time to time.
  7. tx_angler

    tx_angler LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 278

    I make it a point to wave at everyone I see in a truck (hey, it's a Texas thang). Most of the competition either ignores me with a scowl on their face or I get a "one finger salute".

    Last season, one of the larger operation's crew had a flat tire on a NPR box truck and I helped them get going again but the language barrier caused us to not communicate very well but I know the crew leader was impressed because I plugged the tire and aired it up without taking the tire off the truck. I carry a tire plugging kit, floor jack and air compressor in my trailer. They all wave when they see me, now!
  8. Woody82986

    Woody82986 LawnSite Silver Member
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 2,128

    I would say about 25% of all the LCO's in my town are friendly, 25% can't speak a word of english, and the other 50% are complete a-holes. It seems that the 50% that are a-holes are all the new guys. I wave at everyone the first couple times I see them but if they see me and don't wave back I ingore them from then on and don't bother with them.
  9. Todd's lawncare

    Todd's lawncare LawnSite Senior Member
    from P.A
    Messages: 548

    I think it would be the other little guys that don't get along not the big ones. I mean i get all my stuff from the biggest one around and we bullshit all the time . But theres this one solo older guy just gives me a funny look when i see him which is alot he lives two blocks away but other then him I'm cool with them all !!!!
  10. Frosty_03

    Frosty_03 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 333

    I think you should share ideas and exchange numbers, you never know when the big guys will throw something at you. I have had some big LCO ask if I would do some jobs for them that they would not make money on because of there overhead and I gladly do the job and get more referances from the bigger LCO in my area. I am in good standing with them and sometimes when they are behind they call for help and I am always there to help. I always wave at everybody cause you never know when you might need some help or advise. There is a lot of work and sometime I get behind and the bigger LCO's lend a hand. This is just my thought on the subject, so I would rate my relationship with other LCO's a High 10!!!!!!! :cool2: We are in this together!! :cool2:

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