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Removed All English Ivy, Now What? Help

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by rjeffers, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. rjeffers

    rjeffers LawnSite Member
    Messages: 17

    Hey guys,

    I've removed all the english ivy (and weeds) that were growing in my yard. Now I'm looking to start a new lawn. What do I need to do?

    Thus far, I have purchased a pH soil tester, starter fertilizer and a sun/shade mix of seed since I do have a mixture of both in my yard.

    What steps do I need to take?

    1) test the soil?

    2) rent a rototiller? (Will a power rake work too?) (Can I use a regular steel rake?)

    3) put the fertilizer down?

    4) put seed down?

    5) cover seeds with straw? (I have a compost bin with old leaves that's been sitting in it for at least 2-3 years now. Not much has broken down into compost, why? Is pete moss better than straw?

    6) Water twice daily?

    I live in Maryland and not far from a state park; I mention because it seems I see a LOT of different types of birds in the yard (not necessarily combing through the grass though). I do want to protect the seeds.

    Please help.

  2. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,720

    Did you ever get any help?
  3. jrdean62

    jrdean62 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 68

    Did you spray the area with round-up before you pulled everything up? If you did I would just go ahead and till the area up. I would use a harley rake of a soil cultivator fot the job. A toro dingo is a great machine for this and offers both attachments. Chesapeake Supple is a vendor in Savage, MD that rents and sells dingos. If you are interested I would check with them. I recently did a similar project at my home and used the soil cultivator and the results have been great. I too used a mix of shade mix and transition blend grass seed and things are looking good. I used penn mulch on my seed and it seemed to work great. If birds are a problem then straw or curlex would be a better option. I see you have some stumps as well and if you go with the dingo they also have a stump grinder attachment.
  4. rjeffers

    rjeffers LawnSite Member
    Messages: 17

    No I didn't spray anything. I will see if I can find the toro dingo. And you're right, I do have stumps and would LOVE to grind them away. Savage MD is a bit far. Btw, how much does such a contraption rent for?

    I was about to put a mix of seed down until I came home one day and discovered a bunch of pine needles on the ground. You may be able to see it a little bit in the picture. Upon further research, I discovered it's going to be nearly impossible to grow grass underneath that tree, and since the tree is nearly dead anyways, I'm going to have it removed, so yes, there will be yet another stump. ;(

    Btw, thanks for responding. I was just about to resubmit my question on another lawn site.
  5. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,720

    Well, The reason I responded was that I saw that no one else did. And I think no one else did because it looked like you wanted THE WORLD with all of your questions on 10/9, and very few folks take that much time these days....!
    Hmmmm. It seems that you're in quite a quandry now. You apparently didn't care for the English Ivy look, so you killed it thinking you could grow grass there. And now you think the shade is too thick for grass to grow. Have you not been living there long, maybe? (just a guess) And what direction are you leaning toward now? English Ivy probably 'climbed' all over those trees. Are you open to a ground cover that would take shade, but wouldn't climb?
    It appears that the area is 'confined' pretty well away from 'natural', or wooded areas, am I right? One blooming ground cover that I know that grows EXCELLANT under pines is called ' common periwinkle' or Vinca minor. Google the name for a good picture at Brighter Bloom's web site.

    As far as the stumps are concerned- you can just keep depriving them of food by spraying anything that comes out of them with any glyphosate (Roundup-type) spray. If you're diligent, they'll give up 'cause they'll have nothing to survive on!
  6. jrdean62

    jrdean62 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 68

    Machine with Bucket 150.00 Day 450.00 week
    Hydraulic Attachments 65.00 Day 195.00 Week
    Soil Cultivator 200.00 Day 475.00 Week
  7. Newt*

    Newt* LawnSite Member
    Messages: 182

    Rjeffers, I'm thinking in the same direction as Marcos as to groundcover. I think you will find that the competition from the tree roots and the shade the trees create will make it difficult to grow grass there. It will also be difficult to work the soil under the canopy of the trees due to tree roots. You should be able to extend the lawn you have now a bit, but consider using a groundcover under the trees and maybe a mulch ring under the pine. You can use stepable groundcovers that won't trip you as the vining type would. For interest you could use up to 3 different types so it won't be too busy. Take a look at these sites.


  8. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,720

    Newt, Thanks for bringing up the 'Steppables' site.
    That's awesome!
    I've been doing this kind of stuff for almost 3 decades, and it's never been this easy to find newer and better plant material to use!
  9. Newt*

    Newt* LawnSite Member
    Messages: 182

    Marcos, glad you liked that. I'm really a gardener at heart!


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