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Replacing B&B trees?

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by meets1, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. meets1

    meets1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,855

    Went to a job to get a list of trees we need to replace. These trees are two years old that were installed from another company at the time of construction..there were the landscape crew that got bid. Trees are dying, never did any good, etc. Previous LS crew said warrenty is off. I looked today and inspected the site - 80% of trees still have burlap around them and the wire mess basket they came in.

    Put a damper on our day. Show on site supervisor, had to take pictures and now things are being held up. This could of been done by guys not knowing better but this company is a $10 + million company and usually do great work.
  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Another great example of our "Education System"...

    I was actually told by a fellow scaper that the new science says,,, "No need to remove burlap"... Education??? I think not... :)
  3. meets1

    meets1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,855

    Just total bs. Every tree still is in its container of burlap and the wire mesh ----I have yet to see and decay or root growth outside the ball of tree.
  4. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Absolutely agree... it is still a mystery to some ,,, why those trees die,,, even after I show them perfectly preserved burlap... :)
  5. GVL LLC

    GVL LLC LawnSite Member
    Messages: 154

    it pisses me off every time I yank out a dead or almost dead tree and still see the burlap and wire on. Everytime I say these bastards were just to lazy to take the 5 extra minutes to install the tree the right way. How the hell are roots supposed to grow through burlap?
  6. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,651

    I never remove the burlap or mesh. Have yet to have a b&b die. My nurseries also recommend installing them this way. The burlap is almost completely broken down in a a year but is typically very brittle in a few months if watered correctly.
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  7. treeman06

    treeman06 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 62

    I have about 40 acres of trees, and when we dig trees in spring, by the time June rolls around, most of the burlap is already rotting from the top, by fall the roots are growing through the side, and by the next year there is no burlap left. I would say the reason the trees are dying is probably from trees holes not being wide enough and not enough water after planting.
  8. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Does anyone stop to think that there is a reason that burlap fails to rot underground in some instances and will rot under other circumstances???
    Does education address the reasons why??? does education have a clue that there is a problem with their "instruction"???

    treeman06, do you open the top of the burlap if it isn't rotted yet??? do you also keep on the wire cage???
  9. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,651

    Please let me know what about the cage and burlap causes problems?
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  10. Red Shed Landscaping

    Red Shed Landscaping LawnSite Member
    Messages: 183

    I have never taken off the burlap and basket when planting. I haven't had a tree or shrub die from it but i have had to replace them when the homeowners didn't give it enough water or over fertilized.

    I was taught in college that there is no need to remove it since the roots will grow right through it. I have been to many nurseries where the roots are growing like crazy through the burlap.

    The reason they died are more likely from some other reason.

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