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Ride on Spreader-Sprayer

Discussion in 'Fertilizer Application' started by SDLandscapes VT, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 581

    We have a fairly successful plant health care division of our landscaping company and have since the beginning used a two man system--one pushing spreader and one spraying. This worked because we didn't have a high volume of PHC clients as we limited our PHC services to only those clients who purchased or regular landscape maintenance services--we wanted to control all the variables--water, mowing, weed control, fertility etc. Now we are expanding our business and see the easy up-scaling aspect of our PHC services. I also am short handed and really would like to only have to use one applicator--days get really long when you push spreader and lug hose.

    So I m in the beginning stages of research to look at a ride on spreader/sprayer unit.

    In past lives I have experience with the older two generations of the permagreen and the old generation of the CS turf stealth unit (before it was stealthy). I wasn't in love with either of them--of the two I would choose the permagreen. I have a friend/competitor in town who has all three generations and he really isn't in love with the Triumph model.

    We fertilize a wide variety of properties--all granular fertilizers, and mostly spot treatment of weeds unless it is a new to us client. Most of our clients have elaborate landscapes that I would be hesitant to spray around with a machine (close quarters, wind drift w/ low volume spray etc)

    Average property size 17K to 20K square feet with a several over the acre mark.

    Maneuverability, ease of load/unload, hill stability (we are in northern Vermont), longevity, ease of maintenance and availability of parts, and ease of operation.

    I read the old thread on the Zspray and the t3000 and I don't need this to turn into a pissing match, but I do need to hear from users what is working and what isn't working--every machine has pluses and minuses--I just want to learn from your experience going into this.

  2. Mike NY

    Mike NY LawnSite Member
    from NY.
    Messages: 114

    Im looking to buy my first ride on, no experience with any brand.
    I am inclined to go with the z spray, mainly because my John deere/ Lesco. dealer carries them and I do know someone in the biz that is currently using one and has used Permagreens in the past.
    Likes the Z spray better but, still uses the PG Magnum on hilly properties.

    CHARLES CUE LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,411

    I have a T3000 and love it I can do all sizes of properties with it.

    I really like the fact that I can use a carrier rack it make my outfit compact.

    I have not had any problems with it pretty much just belts and up graded the pump. I have broke some thing

    Very very good on hills spreads nice and no boom to get in the way. Great weed kill

    I think it would be nice to have more power for going up hills but I realize it was designed for easy operation.

    I really can't think of any bad things there are always thing that you would change . I am going to up grade to the new foot pedal

    I would be glad to answer any ?

    You need to find 1 of each to try or go to the GIE show

    Charles Cue

    CHARLES CUE LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,411

    Why won't your friend use his Z on hill sides I have heard that a Z is better on hills than a permagreen .

    I can tell you a permagreen wont go where my T will go

    Charles Cue
  5. Service 1st Lawn Care

    Service 1st Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 643

    Yes why will your friend not put his Z on a hill? I own both a Z-Spray and a Permagreen. I will put the Z on any hill before the Permagreen, Z -Sprays have no more trouble with hills then any other ride-on in the market.
  6. Mike NY

    Mike NY LawnSite Member
    from NY.
    Messages: 114

    I am really not sure why he has a preferance for the Magnum over the Z on hills.
    He says that even when he locks in the casters the Mag is more stable.
    We are talking Hills, Not gentile slopes.
  7. nighthawk117

    nighthawk117 LawnSite Senior Member
    from MA
    Messages: 279

    I've got the Zspray intermediate and absolutely enjoy using it every time I'm on it. I service properties from 10k up to 240k. If you don't have anyone in your area that has one and your interested in taking it for a spin, I would be more than happy to assist you. :drinkup:
  8. vaacutabove

    vaacutabove LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,011

    I have a t bought in used this season it does a good job. I have the same problems with it as que does that and I hate the hose end needs a longer reel. Also the back end will slip turning up hill I have burned a place but know I'm a little quicker to turn sprayer off.
  9. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,954

    We upgraded our T3000's with the new pump & go pedal. No other unit can compete with the T3000. We used PG's in the past. Demoed Z-Sprays (all sizes) several times. Demoed the Ground Logic too.

    With the T3000, you get the best of both worlds. I won't bore you with the many reasons. There are over 3 dozen T3000's in my town. Way more than any other stand-on sprayer/spreader.

    I saw the first Z-Spray today in weeks. Once in a awhile I'll see a PG Magnum.

    Our local Scotts Lawn Care had exclusively run Ground Logic units for years, but now I see they're running T3000 units.

    Final note: The only stand-on sprayer/spreader you will not see for sale on ebay = TURFCO's T3000.

    p.s. We treat a 20 acre cemetery that will only allow a T3000 to treat it, and their reasons are valid.
  10. Service 1st Lawn Care

    Service 1st Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 643


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