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Romney fires landscaper over illegals

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by Pflat1, Dec 5, 2007.

  1. Pflat1

    Pflat1 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 66

  2. landscaper22

    landscaper22 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 849

    Good luck to him on his hunt for a new landscaper. His only hope is to get a solo LCO.
  3. freddyc

    freddyc LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 578

    yeah, the news said this morning that they figured 1 in 4 landscape outfits have illegals........but it sounds like Ole Mitt warned them at least once---that or its good air time! Just glad its not my company name being splashed all over the radio today----all those people driving to work listening on the Mass turnpike---wonder how much they were tagging Mitt for??

    He seems like a $20/cut kinda guy.......don't forget, he had overall responsibility for the big dig..no matter how he tries to side step it. Wonder if he got a new concrete drive with some of the spoils of that substandard concrete??:hammerhead:
  4. Nate@TLCS

    Nate@TLCS LawnSite Member
    Messages: 97

    Good for Rommney!!! When it comes time for me to hire someone I will absolutely be doing a background check and a ssn check along with it. I would rather pay a citizen of the U.S.A. $30 per hour than an illegal at all.

    GULLIANNI,:usflag: 08'
  5. AL Inc

    AL Inc LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,209

    What a phony, I guess he feels so strongly now because his every move is watched. But these guys benefit as much as anybody else from the cheap illegal workers. I was taking care of a property for a local assemblyman (now Congressman) and he cancelled his service before the fall came and had two illegals clean up his yard. What a patriot! :laugh:
  6. butch02

    butch02 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 1

    illegals everywhere but im votng for ex gov huck illegals need go home have same problem in ok an ark
  7. landscaper22

    landscaper22 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 849

    That all sounds nice. All I can say is good luck on your search for employees. I have never worked an illegal employee. But most all of the larger LCos do employee them, at least in my area. Take their illegals away, and over half of their work force is gone. I guess you MIGHT find a good legal employee for $30 per hour, but add in all the extra insurance, worker's comp, taxes, etc. and watch what happens to your profit. Unless you charge your customers $100 per man hour, then it could work out for you. I will come work for you for $30/hour. I have one heck of a resume. :)
  8. mdvaden

    mdvaden LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,946

    At least they plastered the name of the company for the whole nation to see...

    Community Lawn Service of Chelsea, Mass


    Are they on these forums ??

    Sure wouldn't want that to be my name in the news - how about you ?? :laugh:

    Really, it's true - you reap what you sow.

    No sympathy needed.
  9. warren piece

    warren piece LawnSite Member
    Messages: 92

    What I want to know and I'm no liberal, why did he not call INS like a good lawmaker should. They were breaking the law and just got fired. Should have been arrested.
  10. PHS

    PHS LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 724

    Funny Warren, I was thinking the same thing :).

    Nate, go ahead and check the SSN's, that's not going to get you very far because most of them have a legal number, it just may not be their number and you have no way to find out. That's how companies of any size get away with hiring illegals, the whole thing is a big farce. As long as a worker provides you with a valid SSN it's a done deal and the company is following proper hiring procedures and everything is perfectly legal.

    Then the politicians come out and say they are going to crack down on companies hiring illegals. Great, they sure as hell aren't going to chase around a couple of guys in a pick up truck with a lawn mower, so they go check TGCL, Asplundh, and the bigger operators and sure enough everyone has a valid number.

    That's how the game works. This is a true story, back in my tree work days, one of the guys I worked with was "legally" working under a friends valid SSN. His friend comes to apply for a job with our company...but on paper he already works there. My groundman leaves on Friday afternoon and shows up on Monday with a different "legal" SSN. On paper the only thing that happened was a new guy applied for a job on Monday morning. They contacted the company attorney and he told them that company has fulfilled their obligation to obtain a legal SSN from the worker and they have no further exposure, send the guys to work and that's the end of it.

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