Roundup substitute

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by BigJlittleC, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. iand

    iand LawnSite Bronze Member
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    From the article
    "It was discovered that 7dSh exerts its inhibitory actions by blocking an enzyme that plays a role in the shikimate pathway"

    But isn't one of the concerns with glyphosate that it blocks this pathway and interferes with the bacteria in our guts or is it ok because it's "natural and organic " , a bit like saying synthetic cyanide will kill you but if it's made from an natural organic source it won't :)
     
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  2. Burnie

    Burnie LawnSite Member
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    I know the cause of Cancer for everyone....

    It's Saliva, but Only if swallowed in Small amounts over a long period of time.

    :D
     
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  3. OP
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    BigJlittleC

    BigJlittleC LawnSite Fanatic
    from Chicago
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    Does that mean we all should start spitting more?
     
  4. That Guy Gary

    That Guy Gary LawnSite Silver Member
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    If you look it it objectively there isn't a huge cancer epidemic.

    The biggest cause for the increase in deaths by cancer is how much longer people live now because of how effectively we can treat or prevent all the stuff that killed most people before they lived long enough to get cancer.
     
  5. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
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    https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

    In 2018, an estimated 1,735,350 new cases of cancer will be diagnosed in the United States and 609,640 people will die from the disease.



      • The most common cancers (listed in descending order according to estimated new cases in 2018) are breast cancer, lung and bronchus cancer, prostate cancer, colon and rectum cancer, melanoma of the skin, bladder cancer, non-Hodgkin lymphoma, kidney and renal pelvis cancer, endometrial cancer, leukemia, pancreatic cancer, thyroid cancer, and liver cancer.
      • The number of new cases of cancer (cancer incidence) is 439.2 per 100,000 men and women per year (based on 2011–2015 cases).
      • The number of cancer deaths (cancer mortality) is 163.5 per 100,000 men and women per year (based on 2011–2015 deaths).
      • Cancer mortality is higher among men than women (196.8 per 100,000 men and 139.6 per 100,000 women). When comparing groups based on race/ethnicity and sex, cancer mortality is highest in African American men (239.9 per 100,000) and lowest in Asian/Pacific Islander women (88.3 per 100,000).
      • In 2016, there were an estimated 15.5 million cancer survivors in the United States. The number of cancer survivors is expected to increase to 20.3 million by 2026.
      • Approximately 38.4% of men and women will be diagnosed with cancer at some point during their lifetimes (based on 2013–2015 data).
      • In 2017, an estimated 15,270 children and adolescents ages 0 to 19 were diagnosed with cancer and 1,790 died of the disease.
      • Estimated national expenditures for cancer care in the United States in 2017 were $147.3 billion. In future years, costs are likely to increase as the population ages and cancer prevalence increases. Costs are also likely to increase as new, and often more expensive, treatments are adopted as standards of care.
     
  6. That Guy Gary

    That Guy Gary LawnSite Silver Member
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    110 years ago the flu was more likely to kill you than cancer is today.

    If antivaxxers have there way we'll be partying (and dying) like it's 1900 again.

    [​IMG]
     
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    BigJlittleC

    BigJlittleC LawnSite Fanatic
    from Chicago
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    That damn diphtheria got me every time I played the Oregon trail.
     
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  8. rlitman

    rlitman LawnSite Silver Member
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    And studies show that research causes cancer in lab rats.

    Not mentioned in this graphic is that life expectancy in 1900 was 47.3 years, whereas it was 78.7 years in 2019, so the increase in mortality rate from certain causes is no surprise. Remember, the mortality rate for the human condition is, and always has been 100%.

    For me, it was always dysentery.
     
  9. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
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    We are exposed to more chemicals than ever before
    Well then go have some round up soup. Wont hurt you. You got to die of something anyway
     
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  10. That Guy Gary

    That Guy Gary LawnSite Silver Member
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    Lame.

    How many posters think they'd get away with telling a mod to go poison themselves because they don't share all the same opinions, sarcasm or not?
     

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