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Running Business While Working Full Time Elsewhere

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by Utah Lawn Care, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. bel-nor

    bel-nor LawnSite Member
    Messages: 200

    Get a helper and have him work with you as much as possible. The end of the day you can do more administrative work which has to get done. The helper should mirror your work ethic after a few weeks. I work a full time and a part time 10 years (very little during turf season) and my bus. 45 customers w/50 parcels. Do not waste time on iffy helpers. Try and make them understand the industry and some of your goals. Pay them enough to keep them coming back. Good luck
  2. CALandscapes

    CALandscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 946

    Hate to criticize, but this is a very close-minded statement. As the owner of a company with 50+ employees, I can proudly say that the MAJORITY of our people treat our business as if it were their own. This is true from the laborers to the foreman to the production managers to the salesmen to the office staff...
  3. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 493

    This reminds me of an old Andy Griffith show where Andy buys a laundromat and tries to run it while still being a full time sheriff. Didn't work for him and ain't gonna work for you.

    Your wife is absolutely right about the benefits, you need to protect them at all costs. Having an employee is going to eat your profits aside from the other problems already stated. I think you need to be happy with doing what you can comfortably do yourself on the side. Once greed enters the equation you set yourself up for failure.
  4. PenningsLandscaping

    PenningsLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,853

    I am in the same boat. I work my ass off, 7 days a week. Going full time isn't in the cards until my girlfriend and I get married, and she starts her job once college is done. I'm trying to make it another 9 years, and at least get my pension.

    Next year ill get a part timer to help with the workload, and hopefully will be able to eventually find someone I can trust do to full time. I'd like to keep growing, and once I hit the 10 years, I'm out and doing just this. Working for a district is great for the pension and benefits, we don't make anything otherwise.
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  5. 205mx

    205mx LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,392

    Best thing I ever did was hire lol... and i had 35 yards at the time. grossing about 1500/week
  6. Utah Lawn Care

    Utah Lawn Care LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,551

    Thank you for your input! I will likely hire someone to help me next year and work with him. Keep the comments coming in if you have input!
  7. PenningsLandscaping

    PenningsLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,853

    What are your hours doing maintenance? I work 230-1030. Just curious
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  8. Utah Lawn Care

    Utah Lawn Care LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,551

    5-8am then 1-6pm. I squeeze my work in between. In the Summer I work 4 10's from 6-4:30pm m-th. Having a work schedule that's inconsistent makes hiring help difficult. It's a tough situation.
  9. PenningsLandscaping

    PenningsLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,853

    That is a really difficult schedule. Any chance you can switch to a more strictly night schedule like most custodians do? You're never going to be able to grow it with a schedule like that, or at least it'll be extremely difficult and you'll be burning yourself out working 7 days a week. Like my schedule allows for some easier hours with hiring. In the summer I switch to days too, but can always do nights if I really wanted to, or needed to. When it starts getting dark at 730 in late august those day hours start to become a burden.
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  10. Utah Lawn Care

    Utah Lawn Care LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,551

    I have to stick to those schedules pretty strictly. In the Summer the school district is on a strict energy savings plan due to the economy going to heck. I think I will always be stuck doing 4 10's. We work in groups of 20 or so during the Summer.

    I am really leaning towards hiring a couple guys to do the lawn maintenance for me. I can add clients as I grow and give them more hours. In a couple years I will have enough clients to keep a guy busy full-time. I know it sounds fine on paper, but I have a feeling pulling it off could be really difficult. I have no problem throwing several thousand at marketing if I know I will have someone to help with the work.

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