Ryan Matoway vs. Lesco Renovator?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Redbear, Oct 15, 2005.

  1. Redbear

    Redbear LawnSite Member
    Messages: 28

    I've been using the Ryan for about 7 years now, time to get a new one. I've been very happy with results but wish it was a little easier operating on small residential properties. Considering a Lesco for this purpose but I have concerns about seed placement vs. the Ryan as I'm not as confident that the box drop method makes the same soil contact and therefore gives the same success as the Ryan disc placement might. I'm sure on bare soil it is fine but we upsell overseeding a lot and that means doing thin lawns or even thicker lawns to introduce a new variety. Any thoughts on what the success may be like. Would really like to hear from those of you using the Lesco, especially if you have experience with the Ryan as well.
  2. spray guy

    spray guy LawnSite Member
    Messages: 43

    I also have a ryan lawnaire 28 which I use alot. season lawn care market. The ryan mataway is a heck of a machine, my friend has a lesco rennovater he has only used it one time and its been in storage for years. I still own my mataway and I use it occasionally.
  3. 6'7 330

    6'7 330 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,821

    We purchased two matteways with 10 horse Briggs engines, in 1996! The matteway is a very good machine, but as you said rough operating on small props. It gets very good results .Down side is, for the workers it is a bear to operate all day long. And it has a lot of belts.

    The renovator is much easier to maneuver on those small props, like on the south side of Chicago. It much easier for workers and they get less fatigued after a long day. The results from the renovator are first class; we always get excellent germination on existing turf.

    TURF DOCTOR LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,138

    We have the lesco very pleased starts on 1 or 2 pulls 99 percent of the seed will come up self propelled is the way to go the seed box should hold more seed my 2 cents i highly recommend the lesco.
  5. FINN

    FINN LawnSite Senior Member
    from PA.
    Messages: 280

    I think there is room in the market for equipment mfg. to come up with a slit seeder that is not a bear to run and can give you decent production on lawn that has a walk behind application.
  6. turfcobob

    turfcobob LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    Hey Finn
    go to Turfco.com and check out the LawnOverseeder 20...It has been around for 6 years. Works just like they say it does, easy and will do hills.

    Mr. RedBear: Your Ryan Mataway is doing the same thing as the Lesco Renovator. Mixing the seed with the dirt and debris it takes up. The seed gets into the slits when you water it later.. Once you replace a blade on the Mataway the alignment for the cutting blades and discs is gone..After that the back discs are just to keep the front wheels down on the ground. The thing was designed for golf courses and later made to work on home lawns. I was there. and operated the first one. You really get your good application and seed soil contact by going over the lawn twice..Ryan, Lesco, Turfco, etc etc they are all basically the same except the way they operated and what they cost.
  7. jim edwards

    jim edwards LawnSite Member
    Messages: 2

    Our company is a manufacturer of slit seeder blades. No equipment, just blades. From a popular standpoint, Claussen and Bluebird are machines we get the most requests for replacements. Very few for Lesco. From my little knowledge on equipment, all are fairly durable.
  8. upidstay

    upidstay LawnSite Bronze Member
    from CT
    Messages: 1,605

    I like the Ryan. Does a great job. It is also a heck of alot more money than the Lesco (close to twice the $$) and it sure is a bear to run. I find myself and my guys were a lot less tired after running the Lesco all day.

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