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Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by clyde, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. clyde

    clyde LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    How tall will Rye get in south in two weeks from now?

    If it doesn't reach 4", by then how long will it take? with Lime and Triple 17 added as recommened.

    I have an engineer spec'ing b4 1/2 payment; 1/2 payment after he gets 4"

    I am also pondering, where the contract is asking for tilled ground before ground is sown with seed. I believe if the ground is tilled it will erode along with the seed ( I would rather buy more seed than topsoil). Most of the slopes are 20 degrees it was just bulldozed 5 months ago. It now has sparse weed and grass cover now.

    There are some extreme conditions in this contract that have me questioning things. It being a l@ke d@m. Generally you don't deal with 20+/- degrees of land for 1/2 mile this late in the season and them expecting a stand of gr@ss 2 weeks before squall lines start rolling in.:usflag:
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2011
  2. FoghornLeghorn

    FoghornLeghorn LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 751

    first question, have you already accepted this contract, or are you contemplating bidding?
  3. clyde

    clyde LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335


    I am on the fence. I don't underestimate 65yr old engineers that wait till this late. The consequences are me reproducing my efforts to get a good stand of grass as mentioned if by chance it washed before germination.

    We are almost to the point where it all getting washed COULD happen.
  4. FoghornLeghorn

    FoghornLeghorn LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 751

    One bit of advice. Never sign a contract where bad weather might mean you don't get paid. And this 4" nonsense sounds like a good way to get screwed. Whst if they don't have irrigation, what if you get strands of grass in one area, but the shady spots aren't growing? Then you don't get paid? I don't think so!!!
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  5. clyde

    clyde LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    Irrigation will be a generator, shallow well pump, 500 ft of 3/4 pvc and 13 rainbird heads. This for in between the days of precipitation
  6. 32vld

    32vld LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,984

    Tell the customer:

    You don't control the weather.

    And it is way late into the season to expect 4".

    Are you (meaning the customer) going to guarantee the proper watering will be done with the sprinklers.

    So if he wants a guarantee then he has to spend the money for sod.

    It sounds as if he has built in too many ways to weasel out paying you.
  7. FoghornLeghorn

    FoghornLeghorn LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 751

    My verdict would be to pass. This job and contract sound like sure losers to me.
  8. agrostis

    agrostis LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,446

    Even if i could plant on Sept. 1 and had ideal conditions i wouldn't touch this. You will get screwed on this deal.
  9. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,558

    Ahem......run!!! I've had a couple "engineers" that try way too hard to sliderule everything.
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  10. clyde

    clyde LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    I took it a step further , I refused the engineers contract and wrote my own. We are suppose to meet tomorrow and finalize my contract and get the ball rolling ( so they've said ) this week. ;)

    This was a classic example of sticking with your gut instinct.

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