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Ryobi 40v vs Ego 56v powerhead challenge

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Here it is, two electric string trimmers in hell. I’m interested in comments on the biggest gas trimmers in stuff like this. Hot knife through butter or would this be kinda tough for a lot of trimmers?

 
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Watch your second video and see how you are stooped at the waist. If you had a Darwin’s Grip you would be standing completely upright and eliminate back strain. That stooped position is where the average string trimmer operator experiences back, shoulder, elbow pain, and overall fatigue.

BTW, my Echo 2620 T equipped with Black Diamond line would cut through those weeds like butter and never hesitate or change sounds.

I know you well comparing two battery trimmers. But for my personal use in heavy overgrown grass and weeds I must stick with a gas trimmer. Although I would enjoy the quietness of the battery equipment.
 
#8 ·
Thanks for posting the videos. My Dewalt will cut out like that when the machine gets warm but not as much as the Ego. Have you had any contact with ego or the dealer saying thats N & E(normal and expected)?
 
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To be fair to electric trimmers vs. string length - My Milwaukee trimmer is load-compensating. Meaning, the motor control will automatically increase/decrease amperage, to maintain constant RPM, regardless of load, string out, etc...

I am ASS_U_Ming that other electric trimmers would do the same, as well.

IF that is true, then yes, the electric trimmers would fare better by cutting these overgrown sections, with less line extended. This would allow them to to consume less energy, and therefore keep motor/battery temps cooler, and avoid overloads/shutdowns.



@Hurryupelectric - What is your opinion of the two trimmers in real-life, maintenance trimming roles? Still prefer the Ryobi better, or does the Ego make up ground there? Or is it as simple as you prefer the Ryobi in this case as well, simply because you have more history & comfort with it?
 
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Here’s a video I just found with very good testing of some electric trimmers. This guy has some cool equipment like legitimate vibration and torque sensors. @sjessen should find this particularly helpful. Something that wasn’t mentioned in the video is the stepped trigger response on the Dewalt. I watched another video showing it having a rather clumsy response that kind of clicks through 10 or so different speeds, I don’t think I’d like it but it’s a very powerful trimmer in this video. It does however accept universal attachments and that’s a big deal to me.

Now that the ego trimmer is able to spin clockwise I’ll be using it as my main trimmer for the everyday stuff. I’ve not used it at all on jobs because I’m better setup with batteries for the Ryobi. I have very little doubt that the ego will be more than adequate for efficient cutting of maintained accounts. I expect it to be my string trimmer moving forward while the Ryobi will be the edger as the motor rpms on the Ryobi are faster and spin the edger blade noticeably faster. While the Ego edger attachment is much better constructed it’s correspondingly heavier and cumbersome to me. I like my cheap Ryobi expand it attachments for the cheap build which translates into much easier use.
 
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Here’s a video I just found with very good testing of some electric trimmers. This guy has some cool equipment like legitimate vibration and torque sensors. @sjessen should find this particularly helpful. Something that wasn’t mentioned in the video is the stepped trigger response on the Dewalt. I watched another video showing it having a rather clumsy response that kind of clicks through 10 or so different speeds, I don’t think I’d like it but it’s a very powerful trimmer in this video. It does however accept universal attachments and that’s a big deal to me.

Now that the ego trimmer is able to spin clockwise I’ll be using it as my main trimmer for the everyday stuff. I’ve not used it at all on jobs because I’m better setup with batteries for the Ryobi. I have very little doubt that the ego will be more than adequate for efficient cutting of maintained accounts. I expect it to be my string trimmer moving forward while the Ryobi will be the edger as the motor rpms on the Ryobi are faster and spin the edger blade noticeably faster. While the Ego edger attachment is much better constructed it’s correspondingly heavier and cumbersome to me. I like my cheap Ryobi expand it attachments for the cheap build which translates into much easier use.
Yes. Thanks. Saw this a week or so ago. Almost purchased the DeWalt but ended up going with the new Echo.
 
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Do the ego's really cut out that much like that? That's ridiculous. I'm not sure that my shindaiwa or my echo battery trimmers have ever cut out on me. The only time they do that is when the battery is dead.
I mean, I wasn’t stopping the Ego because Ryobi has me on payroll. I stand behind my Ryobi stuff but never expected it to be stronger than a unit with higher voltage. Those videos were me trying legitimately to give a fairly accurate comparison.
 
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So, the ego's do actually cut out all the time like that ? That's pretty poor.

Is it worth noting that the ego unit you are testing has been modified or hacked to run the opposite direction? Since you are doing an unbias comparison and all we should make note of the fact that you reversed 2 of the wires and the motor rotation on the ego unit.
 
#23 ·
I was wondering this actually and I’m at the shop now playing with stuff. I let out some string on the ego and tried it both ways, it was equally as loud both ways, meaning the power was the same in either direction. It runs at full speed in the air for about 4-5 seconds and shuts off at the same time. While I can’t say with 100% certainty the modification isn’t to blame I used quality connections and a 20 amp switch, which in my calculations gives some headroom on amps ratings when converting to 56v. I also used heavier gauge wire in my wiring. Good point again though, it should be kept in mind while considering my findings.
 
#29 · (Edited)
Well, with my usual rebellious persistence, I’ve cracked the code of a Ryobi powerhead and reversed it. With the help of a multimeter, the internet, and some extra free time on this holiday weekend I sat and measured and made my moves. I’ve also put a Ego bump feed head on a trimmer plus extended string trimmer attachment with 3 more inches length then most trimmer attachments. I’ve found the ego trimmer head to be superior to the Ryobi head.

Lawnsite friends, without further delay, I reveal my Egobi dual direction and attachment capable powerhead 🎉

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#38 ·
I have to say though, I’m still thinking the makita 40v line is looking kinda boss. 36v with two 18v batteries is practically immune to battery obsolescence. New battery chemistry comes out I’m betting makita makes an 18v battery with it. I also wonder how big of a problem a new chemistry really would be. Any brand that wasn’t interested in screwing it’s customers would just make new batteries with compatibility.
 
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The redmax 3050 is a fairly strong trimmer in my opinion. I ran one for 2 summers and in no way does the echo 2600 battery powered trimmer hold a candle to the 3050 when it comes to power and productivity. I apologize if my response seemed harsh, it's just that particular claim in regards to being equal to the gassers doesn't come from the world I live in.