I own a 05 scag tiger cub 48", I bought it new in the spring of 06. I thought I would have good dealer support which really did not happen. We mow 5 acres on our little farm and 3 acres on another home, thats it. The mower has broken the belt 3 times, and thrown a belt abot 4 times in the short time we have had it. Other than that I like the mower. Ran it by my dealer a couple times to get a belt and was told 2- weeks, I was not happy. I am now in the market for another mower. Went to that same dealer and told them I was buying another mower but I was reluctant to buy from them because of service. He commences to tell me scag has come out with a modification kit that will make the tiger cub run two belts instead of one belt which makes it not throw belts. They rent mowers and said they had the same problem. My thinking was, why did you not tell me this the third time I came in for a belt with a new mower I purchased from you. Anyway, I was not pleased. We are buying a second mower to put on our 3 acre place. I dont mow commercially but I don't mind spending the extra money for quality commercial equipment. I went to 5 dealers, only 2 of which I would do business with and looked at new mowers. I will not do business with the dealer I bought the scag from. The dealer I liked the best only had cub cadet, i test drove the commercial cub cade, but did not care for the ride. Anyway, I looked at a used late model hustler fastrac from a home owner, I test drove it, it was not even close to running like my tiger cub, it was junk, 2 years old about 100 hours, it really sucked. The I went and looked at a Toro Z master 48" 19 hp kaw. It was a 2007 with 31 hours on it. It looks like its a z 400. I have to say that thing drove exactly like my tiger cub, I was impressed, after driving a cub cadet, and hustler, I really liked the feel of quality and handling of the Toro. The guy wants 4700.00 for it, I know thats close to a new price, ( no it does not have the turbo deck) But also, I am taking into consideration of not having to pay 400.00 in tax on a new one. The dealer he purchased it from has a good rep. I hope the warranty is transferrable. I think I may offer him 4500.00 that would save me about a thousand dollars off a new one one. i could sure tell a huge difference in driving a commercial toro and a fastrac hustler, there was no comparison, in performance. My thinking was dealers don't warranty belts and blades and everything else is made to last a few years, why not buy a used late model with low hours and safe paying tax on a new one. Does anyone know if warranties are transferable? I am really leaning toward the toro z master for 4500.00, which looks like new are about 5000.00-57000.00 from what I can gather. I do know I am convinced about getting a commercial mower instead of a residential, after driving that hustler 52" with a 18 hp honda, it was crap. The only other option is the dealer I bought the scag from had a new dixon kodiak 52" with I think a 21-23 hp new for 6500.00, this deal was tempting but i don't want to buy from that dealer again. I own a retail store, we pride ourselves in customer service and really don't want to support a business that does give good service. I thought when I bought that scag I was paying for quality and trouble free service, well i was wrong, its a pain when you spend that kind of money on whats suppose to be one of the best, and its broke down about every 4 time out of the barn. My dealer told me I could pay 250.00 and get the new mod kit for the belts but as much trouble, that this thing has been, and the fact i bought the mower from them you would think they would put it on a no charge. Anyway, I have been looking and test driving and wanted to share my experiences. Anyway, I am just getting these thought down on paper, any comment appreciated.