Seeding Question?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by zooba72, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. zooba72

    zooba72 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 40

    I recently cleared about 1/3 of acre of brush and vines from my property. The area is pretty much dirt with some wood chip remnants mixed in. There are still some roots from the vines around, but I've gotten most of them out. I want to seed this area and was curious how a professional would approach this. This portion of the property now gets sun and the soil is very good. I was going to rototill the entire area and apply the seed via an ordinary garden spreader in late September/October. I'm located in Long Island, New York.

    Does anyone had any advice or comments? Thanks in advance!
  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Seeding now is a good idea for cool-season grasses,,, even in NY... After you're done fighting with the vines and roots,,, do you have irrigation???
  3. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    Axe is right. You can seed when the temps come down below 85. Try to seed 8 weeks before frost--at least 6 weeks. Seed comes up fast when the soil temperature is above 70. Make sure soil is smooth and slopes gently away from house so no drainage ponding. A top quality seed blend with disease resistance is a good bet. Half Kentucky bluegrass and half perennial rye grass should work out fine. Include starter fertilizer as you till. Water every day for 30 days. If it is too big to water...just hope for rain. If no irrigation--use a lot more seed...say 6 to 8 pounds per thousand feet sq.
  4. zooba72

    zooba72 LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the advice. I should be able to cover the entire area with sprinklers. What's the best method for evenly distributing the seed, just a regular garden spreader? Like what I use for fertilizer? or are there better options? Thanks
  5. Davis De Iowa

    Davis De Iowa LawnSite Member
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    Don't forget to cove the seed with something like straw or a seed mat so the birds don't eat it!
  6. integrityman

    integrityman LawnSite Bronze Member
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    You may wish to core aerate it then rent an overseeder. Apply a starter fertilizer and use turf type tall fescue- endophyte enhanced varieties are AWESOME.

    Till if the ground is really bump or not level. Otherwise id go as I suggested above. Cover lightly with straw. Water in the AM if you can.
  7. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Water in the AM for grass,,, For Seed,,, in the PM or anytime that the ground dries out... keep the ground moist until the grass sprouts,,, then you can back off the irrigation... too much water doesn't help anything and this time of year becomes less of a factor,,, so let the roots go deep...
  8. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    95 degree heat here today. Poor time to be seeding. I am in a holding pattern until temps get a little more fall like.
  9. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    In a practical sense--it may be too big to cover with straw. So use plenty of seed--enough so that the birds can't eat enough to make any difference. You may wish to drag or lightly rake the newly planted seed to work it into the top quarter inch of soil. You must have good seed to soil contact. This might help to protect from birds also.

    Apply the seed with a fertilizer spreader. Rotary spreader is slightly easier.
  10. zooba72

    zooba72 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 40

    The temperatures have been very fall like lately with highs in mid-70's during the day. I'm still probably about two weeks away from tilling and seeding. The area is partially covered with wood chips and I'm in the process of scraping them off and removing any remaining roots/vines. Once that's done I'm planning on renting a Barreto Tiller as the place is still a little rough. I should be able to cover the entire area using a few sprinklers. I don't think it's feasible for me to cover the area with straw, so I'll probably apply extra seed.

    One question, a couple of people mentioned using a starter fertilizer as I till ... Should that be mixed in while I till or applied after the ground is loose? Thanks again!

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