Seeding & Strawing

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by Siteprep, May 4, 2007.

  1. Siteprep

    Siteprep LawnSite Member
    from KY
    Messages: 21

    Just wondering what some of you charge per sq ft for seeding & strawing, or if you price it another way. One of the contractors we do work for asked if we could seed & straw for $ 1050.00 an acre. We do not do much of this but I was willing to help him out this time. I figured up my costs per acre at $ 256.00.
    Thanks for the input.
  2. AintNoFun

    AintNoFun LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,807

    ive done large jobs of just straw mulching for 4 cents a square, no seed of course... ive also seend jobs go for much less...
  3. start2finish

    start2finish LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 497

    what type of seeding?

    erosion control? turf establishment? how much prep?
  4. muddstopper

    muddstopper LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,341

    First, I dont think you have figured all your cost, In my area the cost of the straw alone would be $200 and cheap seed is $72 a 50#bag. Broadcasting using a tractor I have done close to 40 acres a day, but it would take several more days to apply the straw, plus the cost of labor that goes with it. In a nutshell, yes you can make money at $1050 a acre for just straw and seed, but I think you need to revisit your cost analysis to see just how much money you will actually be making. And if you will be applying any fertilizer or lime materials, then you are way off.
  5. chris638

    chris638 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 149

    You are way low on cost per acre. My cost for one acre is about $700.00 using fescue seed and quality fertilizer. No one would do an acre for 26 cents a yd. On large acreage jobs (over 5 acres) using annual seed I still get 30 to 35 cents a sq. yd. The contractor is yanking your chain. Tell him no.
  6. Siteprep

    Siteprep LawnSite Member
    from KY
    Messages: 21

    I re-checked my numbers on costs and I can get straw from a local farmer @
    $ 2.50 a bail it would take approx 48 bails out of a straw blower, which we have
    already and I can get seed from a local seed factory for $65 dollars per 100 lbs.
    KY Bluegrass contractor mix. The contractor preps the area with a dozer and all he wants is us to seed & straw it no fertilizer. This is a large construction area where they will be building several hundred houses in the future.
  7. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,649

    I dont use straw any more due to i hydro seed, but you cant say for sure 48 bales will do it. Straw is so in consistant of coverage due to how it is baled.
  8. Siteprep

    Siteprep LawnSite Member
    from KY
    Messages: 21

    Thats strange, I have used hundreds of square bails here and they dont appear to be different. They are wrapped tight and appear to all be the same size in general. Also I always buy 5 or 6 extra bails just in case, but I almost always
    have some left over, with good coverage.
  9. start2finish

    start2finish LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 497

    70-80 bales per acre to cover. around here this work is inspected by environmental health (soil and erosion dept) they have specs. for temporary seeding. Look up your local code.
  10. gammon landscaping

    gammon landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 553

    i did a job last week almost like this expet that i took a skid and spent 3 hours getting some of the roots off the top and breaking up the soil. it was around an acrae, i charged 1750 and made good money. we used 150 lbs seed and 250 in starter fert from lesscos. wich i think cost around 330. then the straw was 270 we used 90 bales, at 3 a bale. and labor was 100, so our stright out cost was 800. if you are doing this for 1050 you are going to go in the hole at the end of the year. we charge 8 a bale to blow in staw, so that was 720 and the seed and fert charges out at 450. labor 250. then the skid is 60 per hour 3 min which is 180. and the rest was a little profit from over estamating. on paper it looks like i made 950 but in reallity i probablly was in the 250-300 range when you factor in all the overhead and taxes. the cost of doing buessness and taxes should always be put in to the bill first. and trust me you will need this money when the motor on your blower blowes up, mine just cost 1300 to replace

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