seeding with the lesco renovator

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by ant, Sep 7, 2003.

  1. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,469

    i got my renovator out today have not used it in 3 years..
    i kicks up alot of grass/thatch you guys clean it up or leave it?
    i seems if we pick it up we are taking seed with us.and if we leave it it looks like hell...
    2. do you just scratch the surface of bury the blades?

    i am looking in the area of $65.00/m using fescue at a rate of 4-6 lbs./m

  2. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    Your rates are right about on what ours are. We charge $70 per M, w/ starter fert.. As far as the stuff on top, we leave it. It doesn't hurt anything. It won't matter, because it's going to be grass there in two weeks, anyway, provideed the people aren't too STUPID to grow grass (Many are). As long as they keep it watered,... that's the main thing. I can't believe how many people just don't get it. As far as the depth setting,... we dig down a bit for good penetration. The Fescue you said you are using,.. Is it Tall Fescue you are going to? If so,.. GOOD CHOICE! There is so much of a trend going toward that direction. The stuff is unbeatable. Once it's established, it grows,- even in sand, doesn't need hardly any water, and stays green all season. What more could you ask for.
  3. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 4,771

    I leave what kicks up. I apply at a rate of 4lbs per 1K sq ft. I charge $40 per 1K sq ft....and thats more than what people want to pay. That includes starter fertilizer.

  4. Hamons

    Hamons LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 706

    I'm in the middle of trying to get all of my seeding done as well.

    I start by first blanket spraying yards that have lots of weeds with Drive75 and Quicksilver as well as Primo Maxx. Then one week later return and aerate the snout out of the yard with the Plugr Pl800. Then I wait atleast one day and let the cores dry out then I come back spread seed and fertilizer and then verticut with a renothin.

    I also leave most of the thatch. Only pick up the big clumps -- mostly for the customers benefits -- but I would imagine big clumps could shade the grass and slow germination.
  5. GLAN

    GLAN Banned
    Messages: 1,647

    That would be a newly signed customer with a trash lawn Hamons?

    That's alot of work. And to go one day after aerating. That's 3 visits
  6. kppurn

    kppurn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 426


    How do you like the results you get from the Drive 75/ Quicksilver combination? I thought about using this myself. So far I have only used Quicksilver with Lesco Three Way. I haven't tried it with Drive.
  7. Hamons

    Hamons LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 706

    You're right -- it is a lot of work -- thankfuilly I get paid for a lot of work. Letting the cores dry out makes a big difference in the results. After runnning the Renothin over them -- they turn to dust and work good to cover the seed and fill the holes.

    Quicksilver Drive combination is a great mix for Seeding -- but have a narrow spectrum of weed control. Gets the major ones and cleans it up enough to help with the seeding. I love the Quicksilver, but for normal applications I mix it with a three way instead of the Drive. Drive is kind of expensive -- I get it for $75 acre.
  8. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,469

    thanks for the replys''''''''''
    did a few this week and you should have seen there face when i told them that the grass stays...
  9. lordohturf

    lordohturf LawnSite Member
    from SW OH
    Messages: 173

    I like the idea of aeration a couple days before. You could do the same thing as Hamons except come back with the Renovator a couple days after aerating to slice seed. YOu would really get great seed/soil contact and great soil conditioning at the same time.

    You are correct about the grass clumps. Leave them. If the customer is upset about them, they can cut the grass as long as they don't bag it .

    Often people will scalp the lawn and mulch the clippings before renovating. This will reduce the amount of grass clumps left from the job.
  10. Rob T

    Rob T LawnSite Member
    Messages: 165

    We always leave them. Usually mow 2-2.5" and then seed. helps reduce kicked up debris.

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