Set-Up for an F150

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by keeman, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Greg78

    Greg78 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,010

    I ran without a trailer for about 2 months. The only time I liked it was down at the beach where parking the truck and trailer on the street or trying to turn around was a PITA.
  2. Greg78

    Greg78 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,010

    I wasn't running out of a truck though. I had a cargo van with some ramps I made out of some 2 by 12 planks. I never had an issue loading or unloading either my Exmark TTHP or BOP Quick mower.
  3. Tinkerer

    Tinkerer LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 620

    In the back of a 93 F150 longbed I have fit:
    Backwards a Toro 117 Groundsmaster with 52" deck and was able to put the tailgate up.
    Backwards a Toro 52" walk behind without an engine,, loaded, not driven on.
    Toro 266-H tractor with 52" deck. Had to back it in. Deck hit inner fender metal and tailgate had to be down.
    Backwards a Snapper 52" walk behind hydro without an engine. Loaded, not driven on.
    When I had 80s 2wd F150s and once I was hauling around 1000 pounds in the back, they started to break rear spring leaves. They all had 4 leafs per side. 4x4 and supercab F150s will have 5 leafs per side.
  4. Coach s

    Coach s LawnSite Member
    Messages: 7

    Where did you get racks for your trimmers? They look perfect for me.
    I work out of my F-250.
    thanks for any advice
  5. JDUtah

    JDUtah LawnSite Silver Member
    from UT
    Messages: 2,636

    Slice half ton in half. Weld hitch to back frame of truck. Buy one ton. Pull half tun trailer with one ton.

    Coming form someone who started with an SUV, then went F-150 then went to a one ton... all within 5 years. Just get the one ton.
  6. ericjd

    ericjd LawnSite Member
    Messages: 81

    What a PITA and a total waste of time loading and unloading. Get a trailer, any trailer.
  7. BrunoT

    BrunoT LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 741

    Some of you guys need to realize that there's more out there than your personal experiences and needs before you disparage different approaches.

    There are full width, 1200- 2000 lb capacity steel ramps of varying lengths (much like trailer ramps) that attach to pickups and are supported in a variety of ways that do not involve putting weight on the tailgate (often the tailgate is removed). Some mount so that you can use the tailgate as additional load space, supporting the load via the trailer hitch, others allow you to drive mowers onto a platform in the bed which the ramp is slide up into, so that you can retain the tailgate via a system that removes any load from it also. There are other designs that become the tailgate when folded up. None are cheap. They take well less than a minute to deploy.

    Used with a long bed HD pickup that has a load capacity of 3,000 lbs or more, you've got a quite stable, compact rough equivalent of a 5x8 or even 5x10 trailer depending on the ramp design. With trimmer racks like shown in the photos, plus a "headache rack" that can also be used to safety and securely hang items like blowers, etc, you have plenty of room for:

    ... an up to 50" wide ZTR, stand-on, or walk behind ,
    ...a 21" mower,
    ... and even a 32/36" BOP quick mower if you should want one.
    ...You can fit two midsize wb's in the back of a safe-t-ramp equipped 8' bed truck, including one over 52" if you wheelie up one mower to clear the wheel wells a bit and put it in the right spot. Or two standers of the right brand.

    With the loadout of a ZTR and a 21" only, there's room for a large bagger, a ladder, a pole hedge pruner, an edger, a trimmer, a blower, gas, trimmer line spool, a second blower, and collection barrels for modest amounts of clippings/debris w/o anything being piled on anything else.

    Why would someone waste their time doing this?

    1. Better fuel economy. (about 17%)
    2. Ease of parking in front of homes on tiny lots and in short driveways on busy streets.
    3. Easier to drive in traffic and tight urban areas.
    4. Easier to maneuver on dead end streets
    5. Safer and easier backing out into traffic
    6. Feels safer than trailering. Stops a lot faster than even trailer-brake equipped trailers. No unintended curb-hopping if unattentive, etc.
    7. Easy to park in a shop garage and forget. No loading/unloading required. Truck AND gear have protection from elements and prying eyes w/o unloading.
    8. You still have a trailer available when you need one.
    9. If you mulch clippings and rarely have to haul off pruned cuttings, don't tarp leaves, don't bring in your own mulch to install while also mowing lawns the same day, etc, you don't miss the bed space.
    10. Last, and most importantly, you can get in drive thrus easier!

    I've run trailers for many many years and just prefer not having a trailer behind me when conditions allow it. It's more forgiving of inattention, I feel more in control, and it's easier to park. I've backed 40' trailers through crowded parking lots before as part of my work in the past, but that doesn't mean it's enjoyable.
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2011
  8. Tinkerer

    Tinkerer LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 620

    Another option to getting a one ton is getting a heavy duty 3/4 ton truck. In many states with a HD 3/4 you don't have to get commercial truck plates. And even some companies will sell you a regular insurance policy depending on the trucks gross vehicle weight rating. I have a 94 F250 heavy duty 2wd with 300-6, heavy duty ZF 5 speed and a 4.10 rear axle ratio. I have gotten 18 mpg on the highway with it empty and its rated to haul just under 4000 pounds. It has regular non commercial plates on it.
  9. shepoutside

    shepoutside LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,208

    This is one of my set up's I use. Love the ramp, and trimmer rack set up. We have a trailer for the larger equipment we run 2-3 days a week, but use this set up for most of our accounts. In the summer the front toolbox is not there, and a blower rack is on the drivers side. As you can see, love the ramps for snow blowers in the winter. ( could not find summer pic's )
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2011
  10. gasracer

    gasracer LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,049

    I do have to ask, how steep the ride is up those ramps on that mower?I've tried to take a lawn tractor up ramps like that and had it to flip over backwards.

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