Should I trade up to a bigger Z?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Cut 2 Please, Jul 9, 2002.

  1. Cut 2 Please

    Cut 2 Please LawnSite Member
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    In May I sold my Snapper WB and purchased a Ferris 1000z 48" cut. I have taken on some larger properties (3-8 acres) now with a lot of wide open cutting. I now feel like I would be better off with 61". What I am wondering is will a 61 save me much time? When thinking about it, it seems like it would. I am considering either the IS 3000 with the 25hp or the IS 4000 with the 27hp. Any input is welcome.
  2. Norway911

    Norway911 LawnSite Member
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    Cut 2 Please, how do you like the 1000z? I am considering purchasing one. Any info on it would be great. Thanks.
  3. Pelican

    Pelican LawnSite Member
    Messages: 164

    A 61" deck is 22% larger than the 48, theoretically this should be your time savings. You must ask yourself if the larger machine will work at your other accounts as well.

    You'll also take a pretty good beating on your sale price with such a new machine, the most depriciation takes place in the first season, something to consider.
  4. mowerconsultant

    mowerconsultant LawnSite Fanatic
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  5. Cut 2 Please

    Cut 2 Please LawnSite Member
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    I realize that there is a depreciation loss and I would love to be able to keep this mower and buy another but I am a one man show at this time. I only have one property that is to small for a 61", however it is also to small for my 48" so I push it. I see time as money and what I am trying to way out is would the depreciation loss be off-set by time saved? If so it would be worth while buying the larger mower. I am still confused on what to do.:confused:
  6. HarryD

    HarryD LawnSite Bronze Member
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  7. HarryD

    HarryD LawnSite Bronze Member
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    who cares about depreciation if it takes you a hour to mow a property with your 48" and now your mowing with a 61" your adding 13" per pass you figure its gunna cut your mowing time down by 15 to 20 min's at least if not more because you can ride alot faster then you can walk by far

    if ya can go with the bigger motor, do it . ya wont regret it the more power the better.
    as for getting rid of the ferris. its nice to have sevral different sizes of mowers with you . i myself carry a 21" pusher 36" 48" 60" WB on my trailer and im a one man show and i use them all for differnt jobs.
    always a few customers yards that i would scap the hell out of with the 60" so i use my 48" and i have a few i can only get a 36" in the back yard

    when i upgraded to a 60" gravley hydro pro WB i cut a day off my lawns :D i also use a velke on my big propertys

    Yee Haw its raining here today
  8. Pelican

    Pelican LawnSite Member
    Messages: 164

    You're correct in your statement that "time is money". I'm in favor of anything that can speed up the job without sacrificing quality, in my competitive market, the only way to make more money is to do more work in a day's time.

    I'm constantly searching for ways to improve efficiency and I purchased a 61" ZTR several years ago to do this. The machine I selected proved to be unreliable and spent much time in the repair shop. Towards the end of the first season, I approached the dealer to trade on an improved model and was offered only half of what I paid for the machine with only 200 hours on it. This was a $3500 hit. I couldn't afford the upgrade at that rate and held on to the machine for two more years and sold it with 1000 hours on it for $4500 under what I paid for it.

    It will take you nearly 10 hours to mow with a 48" deck what you can do in 8 with a 61", at the end of a 5 day week you've gained almost a full day's work. This would be an additional 4 day's work per month, depending on you're hourly rate, this should offset the cost of the machine provided you have enough work to kkeep busy. If you can afford the depriciation loss, then the larger machine will pay for itself.

    I won't tell you what to do, but here are both sides of the equation. You must decide what is right for you.

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