I often see newbies on here asking us to price out a job for them. I for one do not feel we are really helping them out long term by giving them the answers. A good business person will learn from their mistakes and a bad business person will ......well, we'll see. If one of these guys underprices a job once, you can bet (if he is any good) that he won't make that same mistake again. AND THAT IS A VALUABLE LESSON TO LEARN. It's OK to teach them methods to help them. Just don't give them all the answers. It's kind of like the old saying about fish. You can give them fish to eat for the day and they will eat for the day, or you can teach them how to fish and they can eat fish for the rest of their lives. So next time you see some newbe ask how much he should bid, I will probably respond that he should figure that part out for himself. He will get up to speed real quick or he will be out of this industry in a short time. Too harsh or just right?